Shuffling and unshuffling (was Re: ID3 tag question)

Just want to add that I'm very happy about the current way shuffling 
works. Not to say that Daves suggestion should not be implemented as 
his idea makes perfect sense in certain cases, but just to stress 
that if this gets implemented, please make it a user-configurable 
option.

BTW, thanks for the quick response to the problem regarding adding 
single tracks to playlists in 3.1b.

Morten

--- In [email protected], Dave Sherohman <esper@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 08:14:11AM -0800, dean blackketter wrote:
> > Ok, thanks.  Do note that when you turn shuffle off, it should 
restore  
> > the tracks to their original order and re-shuffling puts them in 
a new  
> > order again.
> 
> Speaking of which...  How about an option to turn that off?  "Stop
> shuffling" = "Unshuffle" doesn't make logical sense to me.  I'm 
still
> running a (very) old version of the server and hitting 'record' to
> remove a song from the playlist will remove a random song rather 
than
> the current one if I'm on 'shuffle', but I can't just work around
> this by randomizing the list, then turning shuffle off and letting 
it
> go, since turning 'shuffle' off restores the list's original order.
> Not that big a thing if the server now deletes the correct song when
> shuffled, but I still intuitively expect a playlist to stay shuffled
> when I stop shuffling it, just like a deck of cards stays shuffled.
> 
> 
> Byond that, though, I'd like to see a 'continuous shuffle' option.
> Something which (although it would be nice to still have access to 
the
> history of what has been played) operates by jumping randomly 
through
> the playlist rather than by reordering the playlist and then playing
> it straight through.  On the surface, it may seem identical, but I
> can name two substantial differences off the top of my head:
> 
> 1)  The existing 'shuffle' plays every song in the playlist once,
> then plays them all a second time, etc.  A 'continuous shuffle' 
could
> play any song at any time, potentially even playing the same one
> twice consecutively.
> 
> 2)  As it stands, reordering a shuffled playlist requires you to
> unshuffle and reshuffle it, which means that, if you just let the
> player run forever, you'll keep hearing your songs in the same 
order,
> over and over again, unless manual action is taken.  A 'continuous
> shuffle' would not repeat itself so readily.
> 
> -- 
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