Re: Other "Slim-" devices?

>I haven't gotten around to breaking open the ps yet, maybe I'll do
>that tonight...
>
>There are only 3 fans in the whole thing (case, PS & CPU.)  The CPU
>fan isn't really that loud at 12v, and I'm running a P3-933 in it, so
>I'm kind of worried about slowing it's fan down too much.  It should
>be fine during the winter, but when it hits 100 degrees (F) this
>summer it might not make it.

Yeah,  that's why I'm looking to the Via-Cyrix C3.  800Mhz and they 
say it can run without a fan (but with a nice big heat sink).  Cool 
runnings...



>--- In [email protected], dean blackketter <dean@b...> wrote:
>>  That's good feedback.
>>
>>  Have you tried running the powersupply fan at 5V. too?
>>
>>  With the C3, you should be able to run all the fans at a low voltage
>>  (5 or 7 volts) and still be cool enough.  That should be
>>  substantially quieter.
>>
>>  -dean
>>
>>  >I have one of these.  It's ok, but I have a couple problems with
>it.
>>  >First, there is a CPU heatsink/fan included with it, but the one I
>got
>>  >was defective.  The one of the fan blades would strike the casing
>>  >every rotation, creating a really annoying buzz.  No biggie though,
>>  >$15 at Fry's fixes that.
>>  >2nd, the fan inside the powersupply is very loud.  It's one of
>those
>>  >~1.5" fans you see in 1U rackmount cases, and it's nearly
>impossable
>>  >to find a less noisy one.
>>  >3rd, I have it next to my stereo and was planning on using it as a
>>  >divx/DVD/mp3 server using the TV out.  However on my 36" Sony Wega
>the
>>  >image appears off-center.  It's closer to the center if I pipe the
>>  >image through the Tivo, but still far from perfect.  If you use run
>>  >windows you might be able to adjust this, but I'm running Linux, of
>>  >course :)
>>  >
>>  >As far as the hardware compatibility with linux, everything seems
>to
>>  >work OK.  I haven't tried any firewire devices yet, but the
>controller
>>  >seems to be detected.
>>  >
>>  >There is a small fan at the back that is rather loud, but running
>it
>>  >at 5v makes it much more quiet and the case temp isn't impacted too
>>  >much.
>>  >
>>  >I think these are around $270 at Fry's  (could be wrong tho')
>>  >
>>  >--- In [email protected], dean blackketter <dean@b...> wrote:
>>  >>  Sorry, I hit send before I meant to.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Here's what I would use today if I was building a brand new
>server
>>  >appliance:
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  ><http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchToo
>>  >ls/item-Details.asp?sku=S451-3001>
>>  >>
>>  >>  It's a cute little aluminum cube (ok, not as little as the
>>  >cerfcube),
>>  >>  it's got a low power/low heat C3 processor, 128M of RAM.  Ready
>for
>>  >a
>>  >>  hard drive and maybe a floppy.  Add a CD-ROM drive to the mix
>for
>>  >>  ripping...  Oh yeah, it's got two firewire ports if you want to
>>  >>  expand hard drives easily...
>>  >>
>>  >>  Pretty nice deal.
>>  >>
>>  >>  -dean
>>  >>
>>  >>  >Let's see: $379 for the cerfcube, $399 for a complete PC ready
>to
>>  >run
>>  >>  >linux already with a 20GB hard drive.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >You could easily build a stand-alone server with an ATA hard
>drive,
>>  >>  >x86 processor with better performance and it would cost a _LOT_
>>  >less.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >I've built a couple of systems like this for friends and the
>>  >biggest
>>  >>  >problem is finding a small, quiet and inexpensive case.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >Anybody got any good case recommendations for server
>appliances?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >-dean
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>Yes, cerfcube looks great for a SliMP3 server. It even
>contains a
>>  >>  >>USB port. It would be possible to connect a low cost USB hard
>>  >drive.
>>  >>  >>I have such a drive (100GB) connected to my server and it runs
>  > >>  >>smoothly.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>Joergen
>>  >>  >>--- In [email protected], "simonhorrobin" <simonhorrobin@y...>
>>  >wrote:
>>  >>  >>>   My next project will do something along these lines using
>off
>>  >the
>>  >>  >>>   shelf components.  Essentially there will be a _tiny_
>Linux
>>  >server
>>  >>  >>>   running Perl as the SliMP3 Server, and a commercial
>(unless I
>  > >get
>>  >>  >>it
>>  >>  >>>   together to build one) NAS (Network Attached Storage)
>device.
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>   The App server will probably be the following.  Check how
>>  >cute,
>>  >>  >>and
>>  >>  >>>   tell me you don't want one.
>>  >>  >>   >
>>  >http://www.intrinsyc.com/products/referencedesigns/cerfcube.asp
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>   The NAS will be either the Quantum, Sony or Kintronics.
>They
>>  >are
>>  >>  >>>   kind of expensive, so I'm trying to find another way but
>it's
>>  >the
>>  >>  >>>   software that's killer.  The aim is to have an admin-free,
>>  >always-
>>  >>  >>on,
>>  >>  >>>   RAID5, hideable file storage.  Mainly so I don't tie up my
>>  >>  >>desktop,
>>  >>  >>>   and I can bung it in a room where noise doesn't matter.
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>   Simon
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>   --- In [email protected], "joergen1951" <j.brazzola@d...>
>>  >wrote:
>>  >>  >>>   > And what about a SliMServer, much less power hungry than
>a
>>  >>  >>computer
>>  >>  >>>   > which would act as a music server. Just enough cpu to
>handle
>>  >a
>>  >>  >>>   large
>>  >>  >>>   > disk and perhaps a few controls and a small display.
>>  >>  >>>   >
>>  >>  >>>   > Joergen
>>  >>  >>>   >
>>  >>  >>>   > --- In [email protected], Jacob Potter <jacobdp@e...>
>wrote:
>>  >>  >>>   > > Hi, all -
>>  >>  >>>   > >
>>  >>  >>>   > >	Sean, are you planning on making any other "Slim-"
>>  >devices?
>>  >>  >>>   > Here are a
>>  >>  >>>   > > few ideas I have:
>>  >>  >>>   > >
>>  >>  >>>   > >	"SliMP3-2-part" - this would be an Ethernet MP3
>player,
>>  >like
>>  >>  >>>   > the
>>  >>  >>>   > > SliMP3, but the display and remote receiver would be
>in a
>>  >>  >>>   separate
>>  >>  >>>   > unit
>>  >>  >>>   > > from the Ethernet and audio ports. They would be
>connected
>>  >by a
>>  >>  >>>   > > short-range RF (not 802.11 or Bluetooth, just
>>  >character-at-a-
>>  >>  >>>   time)
>>  >>  >>>   > to
>>  >>  >>>   > > relay display and IR information. This would be good
>for
>>  >>  >>people
>>  >>  >>>   > who's
>>  >>  >>>   > > speakers aren't in the same room as their equipment -
>>  >>  >>think "media
>>  >>  >>>   > > room". It would be annoying to have to go to another
>room
>>  >to
>>  >>  >>>   > change what
>>  >>  >>>   > > song you're playing, or to run a long cable from your
>>  >SliMP3
>>  >>  >>to
>>  >>  >>>   > your
>>  >>  >>>   > > stereo.
>>  >>  >>>   > >
>>  >>  >>>   > >	"SlimData" - a unit that would relay data from
>external
>>  >>  >>   > > sensors
>>  >>  >>   > > > (temperature, motion, etc) to a server program.
>Similar
>>  >to a
>>  >>  >>   > > SliMP3, but
>>  >>  >>   > > > with a bunch of ADCs instead of audio circuitry.
>>  >>  >>   > > >
>>  >>  >>   > > >	Do these sound good? Any other ideas? Sean, I know
>you
>>  >>  >>>   > probably have
>>  >>  >>>   > > your hands full enough with the SliMP3 alone, but...
>>  >>  >>>   > >
>>  >>  >>>   > > - Jacob
>>  >>  >>>   > >
>>  >>  >>>   > > --
>>  >>  >>>   > > "Terminak #3 has bad keyboard. Pkease fix."
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
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