Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...

As the partition talks about performing an *action*, and we try to recall
the devotion to rational thought always showed by John Cage, I believe there
is no reason to think that it should last *zero seconds*.

As for the reason of the title, maybe he used this to suggest the
*absence*of a time measure : thus, a temporal indeterminacy.

In 4'33', there was a constraint on duration, but no constraint on any
action ; maybe 0'00'' is meant to constrain the action (which must be *
disciplined*) but not duration...

Best regards,

Matteo


On 25 October 2011 22:38, David Badagnani <[email protected]> wrote:

> Great discussion.  I can't think of any better use for this list!
>
> If 0'00" is not the duration of the piece, why is it entitled that?  From
> all this discussion, I'm still not sure I understand that.  Is the lack of
> time in the title metaphorical?  And is there not at least a hint of humor?
>  First came the white paintings, then the silent piece of 4 minutes and 33
> seconds' duration, then the very loud piece of no duration...it simply seems
> to be taking an idea to its logical extreme.
>
> --
> David Badagnani
> Kent, Ohio
> USA
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Matt Rogalsky <[email protected]>
> *To:* Vitor Rua <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:09 PM
> *Subject:* [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...
>
> OK, you pulled me in to make one more reply.
>
> On 2011-10-25, at 4:01 PM, Vitor Rua wrote:
>
> > oh pleaseeeeeee... not even einstein will think that this composition
> must be performed... unless they perform on a warm whole or
> something...theres no DURATION !!!!!
>
> The title of this piece is not its duration. The score instructions make
> that clear.
>
> >> think of some of the more abstract Fluxus era compositions by La Monte
> Young and others, for instance, which really are not really performable in a
> concert hall sense).
> >
> > I have performed almost all the pieces
>
> But not all.. because some cannot be performed in a concert-hall sense.
> Such as: "This piece is little whirlpools in the middle of the ocean"
> (that's from memory, please forgive if I am paraphrasing)
>
> OK, bye! That's the end of my contribution to this discussion!
>
> in friendship,
> Matt R
>
>