Re: Re: Searchable Cage texts

Eric Theise <[email protected]> Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:17:50 -0700
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With university-based resources it may also take a very long time.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> I confesss I've done this - not with Cage but with another music author
> whose writings fascinate me. In this day and age of text mining, it's
> really the way to move ahead with research.
>
> But I would much rather first have the blessing and go-ahead from the Cage
> Trust.  And perhaps with university-based resources, a really good database
> could be constructed.
>
>
> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts,
> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts
> blog:  http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44   Twitter: @kos2
>   Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users
> --- My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions ---
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Eric Theise wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>>
>> This is something I've considered building, at least for Cage's books, but
>> always hesitated at the combination of the work involved and the fear that
>> a copyright take down order would render all the work useless.
>>
>> Shall we convene a small silence task force? Membership open to anyone
>> equipped with a scanner and the ability to run tesseract-ocr?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Philip Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a PDF or similar of the Art Lange interview with Cage
>>>
>>>> from 1978?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This query reminds me of a project I wish the Cage Trust would consider:
>>> a
>>> searchable database of all of Cage's texts.
>>>
>>> Think of a Google or HathiTrust search for copyrighted texts.  You get
>>> the
>>> sentence in context with an explanation of where it is found, and that's
>>> it. U.S. Courts have found this to be legitimately within fair use.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be a useful tool of all of Cage's writings were in a
>>> searchable database that anyone could query to find references for
>>> particular quotes? All those queries of half-remembered quotes could be
>>> directed to the database and the correct quote found (or proved to have
>>> not
>>> come from Cage).
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of it just as a quick means to find quotes, but I'm sure
>>> other researchers could think of even more creative uses of such a
>>> database.
>>>
>>> How much more legitimate such a project could be under the aegis of the
>>> Cage Trust.  (I hope you're listening Laura - and hi!)
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts,
>>> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts
>>> blog:  http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44   Twitter: @kos2
>>>   Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users
>>> --- My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>