Re: Re: Re: Searchable Cage texts

Joseph Zitt <[email protected]> Tue, 4 Oct 2016 20:26:52 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.music.john-cage
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This sounds wonderful to me, and we certainly have the skill set among us
to do the task. And I suspect that, as compared to some data analysis
tasks, the text base isn't all that huge. I'd be eager to help (if we get
the Cage Trust's blessings, of course) if I'd have any useful skills.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Eric Theise <[email protected]> wrote:

> With university-based resources it may also take a very long time.
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I confesss I've done this - not with Cage but with another music author
>> whose writings fascinate me. In this day and age of text mining, it's
>> really the way to move ahead with research.
>>
>> But I would much rather first have the blessing and go-ahead from the
>> Cage Trust.  And perhaps with university-based resources, a really good
>> database could be constructed.
>>
>>
>> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts,
>> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts
>> blog:  http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44   Twitter: @kos2
>>   Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users
>> --- My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions ---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Eric Theise wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> This is something I've considered building, at least for Cage's books,
>>> but
>>> always hesitated at the combination of the work involved and the fear
>>> that
>>> a copyright take down order would render all the work useless.
>>>
>>> Shall we convene a small silence task force? Membership open to anyone
>>> equipped with a scanner and the ability to run tesseract-ocr?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Philip Thomas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a PDF or similar of the Art Lange interview with Cage
>>>>
>>>>> from 1978?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> This query reminds me of a project I wish the Cage Trust would
>>>> consider: a
>>>> searchable database of all of Cage's texts.
>>>>
>>>> Think of a Google or HathiTrust search for copyrighted texts.  You get
>>>> the
>>>> sentence in context with an explanation of where it is found, and that's
>>>> it. U.S. Courts have found this to be legitimately within fair use.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be a useful tool of all of Cage's writings were in a
>>>> searchable database that anyone could query to find references for
>>>> particular quotes? All those queries of half-remembered quotes could be
>>>> directed to the database and the correct quote found (or proved to have
>>>> not
>>>> come from Cage).
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of it just as a quick means to find quotes, but I'm sure
>>>> other researchers could think of even more creative uses of such a
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>> How much more legitimate such a project could be under the aegis of the
>>>> Cage Trust.  (I hope you're listening Laura - and hi!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts,
>>>> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts
>>>> blog:  http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44   Twitter: @kos2
>>>>   Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users
>>>> --- My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>


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