Re: Live shows as downloads

I see now. The Tokyo Rotation shows came out as bootlegs. It must have been
the same lot but in the studio. The result certainly better. It was OK but
I have  the  CDs and on  reflection would rather have paid $3.99 for the
MP3s! I must give it another listen.


On 9 April 2013 13:53, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

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> As was noted Kai was done in studio: Laz + 3 Japanese guys I'm not
> familiar with (collectively known as Kuuru Crew I think?).   Bass & Drums
> was from a live show (Laz, Nakamura, Yamaki). The latter was improv & I
> suspect the other was as well though obviously they had more opportunity to
> tweak/mold the results. I like both & maybe Kai *more. *For some reason
> the Tokyo Rotation improvs have usually turned out well IMO - actually
> "gel-ing" & "constructing" nice grooves rather than just wild playing in
> different directions. Not necessarily every day listening stuff though!
> I've not found either in flac.  I try to avoid mp3's whenever possible.
> But thanks for the links
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> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Jonathan Smith <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:38:46 +0800
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> I am confused about *Kai*it seems. There was a live show floating about
> with�similar�material-- I thought they were the same but I must
> be��mistaken.�
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> Kai is Emusic for example, but only MP3. It used to be cheaper.
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> http://www.emusic.com/album/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew/kaikonton/12487173/
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> Tradebit, a reseller, has it for *much less!*
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> http://www.tradebit.com/mp3-artist/987032/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew
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> On 9 April 2013 04:56, Dave Brunelle <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I see what you mean - though Kai was done in studio.�
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>> With those also though, they were available digitally here in the US
>> (maybe still are? though possibly not as FLAC) so those labels had
>> agreements for other territories than Japan presumably (and I speculate on
>> some of it as these are matters I am not part of).�
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>> Of course rights and clearances are always issues, but I would think
>> (again - speculation and my own personal opinion) that particularly with
>> the people Bill has played with for years, that's not such a hard thing to
>> sort out.�
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>> I agree that hopefully one day we're able to bring you some live material
>> as there are certainly great things on tape (so to speak). But
>> again...time, time, time. Oz also, one presumes based on his current doings
>> at Prairie Sun is also quite busy. And as much as anything would
>> undoubtedly be better than the bootlegs floating around, I don't think any
>> of the musicians involved would want to release things willy nilly, no
>> matter how much we may want it!
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>> Dave
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>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:34 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Specifically it was the Kai: Konton & Laz/Nakamura/Yamaki: Bass & Drum
>> P-Vine Japan releases were tend to be hard to find as well as pricey that
>> made me think of them being offered as downloads as well.� The recordings
>> were done in those cases. I also expected Oz would be around on many live
>> dates, etc.� I for one wouldn't be picky about their quality per se as far
>> as mix/master, etc etc.�� However, I do see where rights/clearances (esp. a
>> label release as in P-Vine vs. the same material being made available as
>> download) could get complicated. Although with a solo show (Koyaanisqatsi),
>> Material & MoD that should be less of an issue presumably.
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "Dave @ M.O.D. Technologies" <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 21:02:00 -0400
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>> This is something that was discussed in the past.�
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>> Part of the limitation was that in order for it to be done 'right', there
>> would need to be some time spent with the recordings (whether mixing,
>> mastering or what have you) and that's something Bill didn't have time for.
>> Which would leave it to someone like Bob Musso who also has a lot on his
>> plate.�
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>> In short though, nothing is ever off the table.�
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>> �
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>> Dave Brunelle
>> MOD Technologies
>> http://mod-technologies.com/
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>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "piikea2007" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> It's occurred to me now that Bill has the MOD website/store it could also
>> offer recordings of his various live shows solely as downloads (Flac &/or
>> mp3). He certainly has the expertise & people around him to do so at a
>> pretty low cost. How much could it cost to host more sound files on the
>> site along with the official release ones? Especially given the relatively
>> fewer official cd releases in recent years. A "Beat the Boots" type thing
>> w/o the cost of their physically released. As is he only earned money from
>> the individual shows & this would be a way to earn a little "extra" from
>> having done them. Frisell & many others currently do this.
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>> I could understand if he feels the live shows are "test grounds" or
>> experiments that he'd rather not put out there but to my mind its a damn
>> shame to have so much great Material only heard/seen by those present at
>> the shows (or sometimes audience recordings). Unless you live in Japan or
>> Europe there's not that many Laz live shows to get to!
>>
>> Seems reasonable to me but what do I know?
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