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I keep all the uncompressed SHN files for the Trees and Leaves on hard
disks in 3 PC's. I also do the same thing for all music that I have bought
from download sites like MusicZeit, Bandcamp and Groove.
Disk space is so cheap.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 2:32 PM 'Peter Elias' [email protected] [tadream] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> That=E2=80=99s why I have all of my Trees & Leaves as WAV files on a coup=
le of
> different portable hard drives. That way I can easily burn CD=E2=80=99s =
if needed
> or turn them into MP3 files ...
>
> Peter
>
> *From:* mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2020 11:52 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [tadream] Blue Room
>
>
>
> My original CDR from the tree are all palying and verifying perfectly.
>
> 3 factors are determining the longevity of the CDR:
>
> 1.Quality of the media itself. There was some crappy stuff out there.
> Choosing and investing in a good brandname will pay down the road.
> 2.Burn-in speed, ideally 2x or 4x.
> 3.Storage. Avoid extreme conditions.
>
> As suggested, backup is always a safe bet.
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:22, M Bergeron [email protected] [tadream] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> While they're theoretically supposed to last ~50-100 years, experience
> suggests more like 10-15 years. YMMV
>
> I'd STRONGLY suggest backing up a 20-year-old disc ASAP
>
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> The door of a bigoted mind opens outwards so that the only result of the
> pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly..
>
> -Ogden Nash, author (1902-1971)
>
> -----------------
>
> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
>
> Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
>
> Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
>
> Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
>
> --Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE)
>
>
> On Monday, January 27, 2020, 10:06:54 AM EST, Dave Brewer
> [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> How long are cdrs supposed to last? The blue room disc is 20 years old
> now. I should check my copy too. My only concern's been the disc label
> peeling off.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 1:44 PM '[email protected]'
> [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> My CD-R of Blue Room demo has deteriorated- does anyone have a lossless
> copy I can =E2=80=9Cborrow=E2=80=9D?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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<p><div dir=3D"auto">I keep all the uncompressed SHN files for the Tr=
ees and Leaves on hard disks in 3 PC's.=C2=A0 I also do the same thing =
for all music that I have bought from download sites like MusicZeit, Bandca=
mp and Groove.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Disk space is s=
o cheap.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 2:32 PM 'Peter Elias' <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [tadream] <<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<=
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<div>That=E2=80=99s why I have all of my Trees & Leaves as WAV files on=
a couple of=20
different portable hard drives.=C2=A0 That way I can easily burn CD=E2=80=
=99s if needed=20
or turn them into MP3 files ...</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Peter</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email protected]" href=3D"mailto:tadre=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mailto:tadream@yah=
oogroups.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 27, 2020 11:52 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email protected]" href=3D"mailto:tadream=
@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tadream@yahoogroups.=
com</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tadream] Blue Room</div></div></div>
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<p>My original CDR from the tree are all palying and verifying perfectly.=20
<div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>3 factors are determining the longevity of the CDR:=20
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>1.Quality of the media itself.=C2=A0 There was some crappy stuff out t=
here.=20
Choosing and investing in a good brandname will pay down the road.</div>
<div>2.Burn-in speed, ideally 2x or 4x.</div>
<div>3.Storage. Avoid extreme conditions.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>As suggested, backup is always a safe bet.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Daniel<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:22, M Bergeron g1mez@yahoo=
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[tadream] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
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OiOHVXW3QLYH0mUjA03Ldi6rGkpukyMHZw=3Ds0-d-e1-ft#http://false">While they=
9;re theoretically supposed to last ~50-100=20
years, experience suggests more like 10-15 years. YMMV</div>
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<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
>[email protected]</a> [tadream] <<a href=3D"mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> w=
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<div>How long are cdrs supposed to last? The blue room disc is 20 years o=
ld=20
now. I should check my copy too. My only concern's been the disc labe=
l peeling=20
off.=20
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<div>Dave</div></div>
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[email protected]" shape=3D"rect" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">[email protected]</a>' <a href=3D"mailto:jimbo@freshbiscu=
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@freshbiscuits.com</a> [tadream]=20
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llow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>=20
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<div>My CD-R of Blue Room demo has deteriorated- does anyone have a los=
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