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That's exactly why I don't like labels on discs. If it's something that
can't be directly printed I'd rather just have a blank surface scribbled
with a sharpie.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:47 PM '[email protected]'
[email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Turns out my CD did have a label on it, which might have accounted for it
> not working any more.
> On Feb 13, 2020, 2:32 PM -0500, 'Peter Elias' [email protected] [tadream]
> <[email protected]>, wrote:
>
> That=E2=80=99s why I have all of my Trees & Leaves as WAV files on a coup=
le of
> different portable hard drives. That way I can easily burn CD=E2=80=99s =
if needed
> or turn them into MP3 files ...
>
> Peter
>
> *From:* mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2020 11:52 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [tadream] Blue Room
>
>
>
> My original CDR from the tree are all palying and verifying perfectly.
>
> 3 factors are determining the longevity of the CDR:
>
> 1.Quality of the media itself. There was some crappy stuff out there.
> Choosing and investing in a good brandname will pay down the road.
> 2.Burn-in speed, ideally 2x or 4x.
> 3.Storage. Avoid extreme conditions.
>
> As suggested, backup is always a safe bet.
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:22, M Bergeron [email protected] [tadream] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> While they're theoretically supposed to last ~50-100 years, experience
> suggests more like 10-15 years. YMMV
>
> I'd STRONGLY suggest backing up a 20-year-old disc ASAP
>
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> The door of a bigoted mind opens outwards so that the only result of the
> pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly..
>
> -Ogden Nash, author (1902-1971)
>
> -----------------
>
> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
>
> Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
>
> Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
>
> Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
>
> --Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE)
>
>
> On Monday, January 27, 2020, 10:06:54 AM EST, Dave Brewer
> [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> How long are cdrs supposed to last? The blue room disc is 20 years old
> now. I should check my copy too. My only concern's been the disc label
> peeling off.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 1:44 PM '[email protected]'
> [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> My CD-R of Blue Room demo has deteriorated- does anyone have a lossless
> copy I can =E2=80=9Cborrow=E2=80=9D?
>
> Jim
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Turns out my CD did have a label on it, which might have =
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r Elias' <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">peter@p=
celias.com</a> [tadream] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<div>That=E2=80=99s why I have all of my Trees & Leaves as WAV files on=
a couple of different portable hard drives.=C2=A0 That way I can easily bu=
rn CD=E2=80=99s if needed or turn them into MP3 files ...</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Peter</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email protected]" href=3D"mailto:tadre=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">
mailto:[email protected]</a></div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 27, 2020 11:52 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email protected]" href=3D"mailto:tadream=
@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">
[email protected]</a></div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tadream] Blue Room</div>
</div>
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<p>My original CDR from the tree are all palying and verifying perfectly.</=
p>
<div>
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<div>3 factors are determining the longevity of the CDR:
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<div>1.Quality of the media itself.=C2=A0 There was some crappy stuff out t=
here. Choosing and investing in a good brandname will pay down the road.</d=
iv>
<div>2.Burn-in speed, ideally 2x or 4x.</div>
<div>3.Storage. Avoid extreme conditions.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>As suggested, backup is always a safe bet.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Daniel<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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ears, experience suggests more like 10-15 years. YMMV</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I'd STRONGLY suggest backing up a 20-year-old disc ASA=
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the pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly..<br>
</p>
<p id=3D"gmail-m_-4875142184595629863ydpb5c7123eyui_3_16_0_1_1455494943582_=
2528">-Ogden Nash, author (1902-1971)<br>
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<p id=3D"gmail-m_-4875142184595629863ydpb5c7123eyui_3_16_0_1_1455494943582_=
2530">Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipote=
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<p id=3D"gmail-m_-4875142184595629863ydpb5c7123eyui_3_16_0_1_1455494943582_=
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2535">Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?<br>
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<<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">tadream@ya=
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<div>How long are cdrs supposed to last? The blue room disc is 20 years old=
now. I should check my copy too. My only concern's been the disc label=
peeling off.
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Dave</div>
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