Re: Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020

"Markus Buckley [email protected] [tadream]" <[email protected]> Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:08:08 +0000
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On 28 Oct 2020, 16:52, at 16:52, "Dave Brewer [email protected] [tadream]" =
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I was recently gifted the Hades box and have been methodically
>traversing
>through it. I'm looking forward to the Pilots box but some of the
>preorder
>prices are nuts. Looks like Europe's got the best.
>
>I'm all for finding a new home for the list even though the activity's
>been
>light for the longest time. I'd love to chat about the boxes with you
>folks. And any other TD stuff too of course.
>
>Regards,
>Dave B
>
>On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 8:32 AM Morgan Feldon [email protected]
>[tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In Search of Hades was an irresistable proposition. Tons of live
>material
>> and professionally remastered albums. This is definitely a different
>> balance. If all you want is the Dominion Concert, it's even steeper.
>Still
>> I think it will be a desirable box with all the soundtracks and book.
>I
>> haven't ordered yet -- checking finances -- but probably will soon
>due to
>> expected limited run?
>>
>> -Morgan
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:44 PM Grant Somerville
>> [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Morgan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope you=E2=80=99re well. Been here a long time too. I can=E2=80=99t re=
member if
>anyone
>>> has commented on this but here=E2=80=99s this month=E2=80=99s hot potat=
o..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www.cd-services.com/product_info.aspx?id=3D17490&qry=3D&key=3D&gen=
re=3D24&pi=3D0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* 28 October 2020 02:33
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on
>>> December 15, 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the list doesn't move to Groups.io, it's not too difficult to set
>up a
>>> self-hosted mailing list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was on Facebook for 5 years but realized how unbelievably
>addictive and
>>> antisocial it really is. Their insistence on one "Real Name" account
>and
>>> everything you share being visible by friends, family,
>acquaintances,
>>> coworkers, and customers is creating a dangerous brew of unrest and
>>> unmanageable chaos. And Mark Zuckerberg does not care in the
>slightest.
>>> He's laughing all the way to the bank as our society is literally
>torn
>>> apart. So I've come to have a renewed respect in siloed mailing
>lists and
>>> forums like this which let us share different facets of our
>personalities
>>> without sharing "everything".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm currently not on Facebook, and even when I very occasionally
>login to
>>> my partner's account to check on friends and a gardening group I
>started,
>>> both the Zest and the TD Bootleg group are now sadly locked out
>unless you
>>> are specially invited. This seems insular and suboptimal, so at this
>point
>>> I'm oblivious to what's going on in the TD community except what
>little is
>>> posted here. I'd hate to see the group go away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Morgan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:05 AM 'vicochet' [email protected]
>>> [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Without this group I would not have met so many friends that
>eventually
>>> allowed me to obtain dozens of TD tapes and eventually start the
>Ricochet
>>> Gatherings,
>>>
>>> which had 11 consecutive events from 2000-2010.
>>>
>>> Vic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:34 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on
>>> December 15, 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I=E2=80=99ll concur that the groups work well =E2=80=93 as Chris sugges=
ts, you can
>almost
>>> completely avoid the =E2=80=9Csocial=E2=80=9D part of FB and enjoy the =
groups, but
>it
>>> doesn=E2=80=99t hurt to =E2=80=9Cfollow=E2=80=9D musicians like Paul Ha=
slinger, Robert
>Waters, and
>>> Ulrich Schnauss.  There is good participation from members of the
>group as
>>> well in the Zest.  I=E2=80=99ve posted some questions and was surprised=
 to
>have TQ
>>> answer them himself.
>>>
>>> That said, I=E2=80=99ve been a member on here since UWP days in =E2=80=
=9992 =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve
>made
>>> some good friendships with people  on here..  Hopefully it can
>continue in
>>> some other form.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> *From: *Chris Anderton [email protected] [tadream] <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM
>>> *To: *Dave Brewer [email protected] [tadream]
><[email protected]>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on
>>> December 15, 2020
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've been here since the UWP days, though mostly on 'lurk'
>mode as
>>> there's not enough time in the day... I participated in the
>Trees/Leaves
>>> distro and have managed to collect huge quantities of bootleg
>recordings
>>> via members of the group over the years.
>>>
>>> The two facebook groups are pretty good, and you can join FB and
>these
>>> groups without getting involved in anything else that happens on FB
>(just
>>> amend the settings). I don't post anything on a personal level, have
>turned
>>> off notifications, and don't pay attention to anything else on the
>site
>>> unless it relates to my day job....
>>>
>>> The two main sites (if you're interested) are:
>>>
>>> The Zest - general discussion, and helpful for staying on top of
>official
>>> releases, including all ex-members and the Behind Closed Doors
>sessions
>>> that Q has been doing: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheZest
>>>
><https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww..=
facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FTheZest&data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d=
87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930164476%7=
CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi=
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>>>
>>>
>>> Tangerine Dream related bootlegs and other unofficial stuff - more
>like
>>> the tadream group I suppose:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/111898275640714
>>>
><https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww..=
facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F111898275640714&data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480=
c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930=
164476%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6=
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XXSfPA%3D&reserved=3D0>
>>>
>>> The second group has had quite a few interesting recordings appear
>over
>>> the last couple of years (better quality than the Leaves/Trees, or
>>> previously uncirculated). It looks like Wouter may not be posting
>any
>>> further downloads on there as some of his remasters have been
>bootlegged
>>> commercially, but you never know. Some others on the page have also
>posted
>>> stuff, including a colour version of the Athens 1983 TV special...
>>>
>>> RIP Tadream / Yahoo Groups
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 15 October 2020, 15:04:55 BST, Dave Brewer
>[email protected]
>>> [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's what it sounds like to me.  It was only a matter of time once
>they
>>> decided to shut down the web section.  The official TD forums have
>been
>>> next to dead for years now.  And there's been even less traffic
>here.  This
>>> kind of online socializing is obsolete in the world of Facebook,
>Twitter,
>>> etc.  I personally do not subscribe to any social media as I'd
>rather be
>>> spending my time doing other things than tracking all the insane
>activity
>>> there.
>>>
>>> It does sadden me that this era is going to end.  It started with
>the
>>> original TADREAM UWP list in the '90s and has been quite the ride
>since.
>>> I'd say that a quarter century (or more?) has been quite a good run
>>> considering how quickly the internet has grown and evolved in that
>time.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can somehow keep in touch in another way?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 6:19 AM '[email protected]'
>>> [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean the email group is going away?
>>>
>>> Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www.ghacks.net/2020/10/14/farewell-yahoo-groups-shutting-down-on-d=
ecember-15-2020/
>>>
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>>>
>>> Sent from Pocket - Get it free!
>>>
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>>>
>>> - J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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      <p><div dir=3D"auto">I think CDS in Dundee are about the cheapest at =
the moment with very good reliable delivery too. My Pilots set was sent out=
 today. <br><br></div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Markus <br><br></div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 28 Oct 2020, at 16:52, "Dave Brewer deibu00@g=
mail.com [tadream]" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmai=
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    I was recently gifted the Hades box and have been methodically traversi=
ng through it. I'm looking forward to the Pilots box but some of the preord=
er prices are nuts. Looks like Europe's got the best.
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     <br>
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    <div dir=3D"auto">
     I'm all for finding a new home for the list even though the activity's=
 been light for the longest time. I'd love to chat about the boxes with you=
 folks. And any other TD stuff too of course.
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     <br>
    </div>
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     Regards,
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     Dave B
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     On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 8:32 AM Morgan Feldon=20
     <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
a> [tadream] &lt;
     <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>=
&gt; wrote:
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           In Search of Hades was an irresistable proposition. Tons of live=
 material and professionally remastered albums. This is definitely a differ=
ent balance. If all you want is the Dominion Concert, it's even steeper. St=
ill I think it will be a desirable box with all the soundtracks and book. I=
 haven't ordered yet -- checking finances -- but probably will soon due to =
expected limited run?
           <br>
          </div>
          <div>
           <br>
          </div>
          <div>
           -Morgan
           <br>
          </div>
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           On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:44 PM Grant Somerville=20
           <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;
           <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Hi Morgan,<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Hope you=E2=80=99re well. Been=
 here a long time too. I can=E2=80=99t remember if anyone has commented on =
this but here=E2=80=99s this month=E2=80=99s hot potato.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><a href=3D"https://www.cd-serv=
ices.com/product_info.aspx?id=3D17490&amp;qry=3D&amp;key=3D&amp;genre=3D24&=
amp;pi=3D0" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.cd-services.co=
m/product_info.aspx?id=3D17490&amp;qry=3D&amp;key=3D&amp;genre=3D24&amp;pi=
=3D0</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Grant.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>=20
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</spa=
n></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a> &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tadre=
[email protected]</a>&gt; <br> <b>Sent:</b> 28 October 2020 02:33<br> <b>T=
o:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">[email protected]</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [tadream] F=
arewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; <u></u><u></u></p>=20
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                   <div>=20
                    <div>=20
                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If the list doesn't move to Gro=
ups.io, it's not too difficult to set up a self-hosted mailing list.<u></u>=
<u></u></p>=20
                    </div>=20
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
                    <div>=20
                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was on Facebook for 5 years b=
ut realized how unbelievably addictive and antisocial it really is. Their i=
nsistence on one "Real Name" account and everything you share being visible=
 by friends, family, acquaintances, coworkers, and customers is creating a =
dangerous brew of unrest and unmanageable chaos. And Mark Zuckerberg does n=
ot care in the slightest. He's laughing all the way to the bank as our soci=
ety is literally torn apart. So I've come to have a renewed respect in silo=
ed mailing lists and forums like this which let us share different facets o=
f our personalities without sharing "everything".<u></u><u></u></p>=20
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                    <div>=20
                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
                    </div>=20
                    <div>=20
                     <div>=20
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm currently not on Facebook,=
 and even when I very occasionally login to my partner's account to check o=
n friends and a gardening group I started, both the Zest and the TD Bootleg=
 group are now sadly locked out unless you are specially invited. This seem=
s insular and suboptimal, so at this point I'm oblivious to what's going on=
 in the TD community except what little is posted here. I'd hate to see the=
 group go away.<u></u><u></u></p>=20
                     </div>=20
                     <div>=20
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
                     </div>=20
                     <div>=20
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Morgan<u></u><u></u></p>=20
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                   </div>=20
                   <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
                   <div>=20
                    <div>=20
                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:05 AM=
 'vicochet' <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer"> [email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tadream@ya=
hoogroups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>=20
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204);padding:0cm;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;">=20
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                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">&=
nbsp; </span> <u></u><u></u></p>=20
                      <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-571530407349=
0079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ygrp-mlmsg">=20
                       <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-57153040734=
90079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ygrp-msg">=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black;">Without this group I would not have met so many friends=
 that eventually allowed me to obtain dozens of TD tapes and eventually sta=
rt the Ricochet Gatherings,<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black;">which had 11 consecutive events from 2000-2010.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black;">Vic<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                               <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;">From:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" title=3D"ta=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> mailto:tadream=
@yahoogroups.com</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                               <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;">Sent:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black;"> Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:34 PM<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>=20
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                               <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;">To:</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:black;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" title=3D"tadr=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> tadream@yahoogro=
ups.com</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                               <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;">Subject=
:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"> Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down =
on December 15, 2020<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;color:black;">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black;">&nbsp; <u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
                            <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-571530=
4073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ygrp-text">=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;color:black;">I=E2=80=99ll concur that the groups work well =E2=80=
=93 as Chris suggests, you can almost completely avoid the =E2=80=9Csocial=
=E2=80=9D part of FB and enjoy the groups, but it doesn=E2=80=99t hurt to =
=E2=80=9Cfollow=E2=80=9D musicians like Paul Haslinger, Robert Waters, and =
Ulrich Schnauss.&nbsp; There is good participation from members of the grou=
p as well in the Zest.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve posted some questions and was sur=
prised to have TQ answer them himself.<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;color:black;">That said, I=E2=80=99ve been a member on here since =
UWP days in =E2=80=9992 =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve made some good friendships w=
ith people&nbsp; on here..&nbsp; Hopefully it can continue in some other fo=
rm.<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;color:black;">Jim<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
                              <div style=3D"border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,19=
6,223);padding:0cm;">=20
                               <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-botto=
m:12pt;"> <b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;">From: </span></b><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;">Chris Anderton <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">chrisandert=
[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br> <b=
>Date: </b>Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM<br> <b>To: </b>Dave Brewe=
r <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
>[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;<b=
r> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on De=
cember 15, 2020<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">Yeah,=
 I've been here since the UWP days, though mostly on 'lurk' mode as there's=
 not enough time in the day... I participated in the Trees/Leaves distro an=
d have managed to collect huge quantities of bootleg recordings via members=
 of the group over the years.</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:bla=
ck;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">The t=
wo facebook groups are pretty good, and you can join FB and these groups wi=
thout getting involved in anything else that happens on FB (just amend the =
settings). I don't post anything on a personal level, have turned off notif=
ications, and don't pay attention to anything else on the site unless it re=
lates to my day job.....</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;">=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">The t=
wo main sites (if you're interested) are:</span><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">The Z=
est - general discussion, and helpful for staying on top of official releas=
es, including all ex-members and the Behind Closed Doors sessions that Q ha=
s been doing: <a href=3D"https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?ur=
l=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FTheZest&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C=
%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%=
7C0%7C637394491930164476%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj=
oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3DL8G%2BhX9L%2FNf=
gFhjLK%2FEitFfqCOFSjVxJN36EGJ4%2B7so%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer"> https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheZest</a>&nbsp;</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">Tange=
rine Dream related bootlegs and other unofficial stuff - more like the tadr=
eam group I suppose:&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://eur06.safelinks.protection.ou=
tlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F111898275640714&=
amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640af=
b435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930164476%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI=
joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sd=
ata=3Dxhxsr7yMkmshALShbcmQgNNFWXyFKsM69r5etXXSfPA%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> https://www.facebook.com/groups/111898275=
640714</a></span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">The s=
econd group has had quite a few interesting recordings appear over the last=
 couple of years (better quality than the Leaves/Trees, or previously uncir=
culated). It looks like Wouter may not be posting any further downloads on =
there as some of his remasters have been bootlegged commercially, but you n=
ever know. Some others on the page have also posted stuff, including a colo=
ur version of the Athens 1983 TV special... </span><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">RIP T=
adream / Yahoo Groups</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">All t=
he best,</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></=
span></p>=20
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:black;">Chris=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p=
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                              <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715=
304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yahoo_quoted_350087240=
8">=20
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                                 <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42=
);">On Thursday, 15 October 2020, 15:04:55 BST, Dave Brewer <a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]=
m</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote: </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                 <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5=
715304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv3600349299">=20
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                                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,=
42);">That's what it sounds like to me.&nbsp; It was only a matter of time =
once they decided to shut down the web section.&nbsp; The official TD forum=
s have been next to dead for years now.&nbsp; And there's been even less tr=
affic here.&nbsp; This kind of online socializing is obsolete in the world =
of Facebook, Twitter, etc.&nbsp; I personally do not subscribe to any socia=
l media as I'd rather be spending my time doing other things than tracking =
all the insane activity there.</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:bl=
ack;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,=
42);">It does sadden me that this era is going to end.&nbsp; It started wit=
h the original TADREAM UWP list in the '90s and has been quite the ride sin=
ce.&nbsp; I'd say that a quarter century (or more?) has been quite a good r=
un considering how quickly the internet has grown and evolved in that time.=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p=
>=20
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                                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,=
42);">Maybe we can somehow keep in touch in another way?</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,=
42);">Regards,</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>=20
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                                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,=
42);">Dave</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>=20
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                                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:rgb(38,4=
0,42);">On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 6:19 AM '<a href=3D"mailto:jimbo@freshbiscu=
its.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>' =
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tadream@ya=
hoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]=
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p>=20
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lid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;">=20
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                                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:rgb(3=
8,40,42);">&nbsp; </span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>=20
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-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv3600349299g=
mail-m_-2853588436104518237ygrp-mlmsg">=20
                                       <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmai=
l-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv3600349299=
gmail-m_-2853588436104518237ygrp-msg">=20
                                        <div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gma=
il-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv360034929=
9gmail-m_-2853588436104518237ygrp-text">=20
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                                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:rgb=
(38,40,42);">Does this mean the email group is going away?</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:rgb=
(38,40,42);">Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020<br> =
<br> <a href=3D"https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps=
%3A%2F%2Fpocket.co%2Fxhrv7r&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d=
87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930174475%7=
CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi=
LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3DQW%2Fy7H1GtRYgnCb6%2BA%2BGFI%2B6X4mOstVRO=
1VJI7Nw7yU%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https:=
//www..ghacks.net/2020/10/14/farewell-yahoo-groups-shutting-down-on-decembe=
r-15-2020/</a><br> <br> Sent from Pocket - <a href=3D"https://eur06.safelin=
ks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgetpocket.com%2Fgo%3Fsrc%3De=
mail&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f=
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930174475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8=
eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&a=
mp;sdata=3Dyk4zDXuMtg6roTjz0kHBhn6BWNs4MlTZhCQ4y6GjgEg%3D&amp;reserved=3D0"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> Get it free!</a></span><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
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                                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,serif;color:rgb=
(38,40,42);">- J</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><=
u></u></span></p>=20
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class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.c=
om/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26ut=
m_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Demailclient%26ut=
m_term%3Dicon&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84=
df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930184467%7CUnknown%7CTWF=
pbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D=
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