RE: Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020

"'michaeljean' [email protected] [tadream]" <[email protected]> Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:56:54 -0400
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That=E2=80=99s where /I ordered mine from as well.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 1:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15,=
 2020

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I think CDS in Dundee are about the cheapest at the moment with very good r=
eliable delivery too. My Pilots set was sent out today.=20

Markus=20

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On 28 Oct 2020, at 16:52, "Dave Brewer [email protected] [tadream]" <tadrea=
[email protected]> wrote:

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I was recently gifted the Hades box and have been methodically traversing t=
hrough it. I'm looking forward to the Pilots box but some of the preorder p=
rices are nuts. Looks like Europe's got the best.=20

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I'm all for finding a new home for the list even though the activity's been=
 light for the longest time. I'd love to chat about the boxes with you folk=
s. And any other TD stuff too of course.=20

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Regards,=20

Dave B=20

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 8:32 AM Morgan Feldon [email protected] [tadre=
am] < [email protected]> wrote:=20

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In Search of Hades was an irresistable proposition. Tons of live material a=
nd professionally remastered albums. This is definitely a different balance=
.. If all you want is the Dominion Concert, it's even steeper. Still I think=
 it will be a desirable box with all the soundtracks and book. I haven't or=
dered yet -- checking finances -- but probably will soon due to expected li=
mited run?=20

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-Morgan=20

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:44 PM Grant Somerville grant.somerville@hotmail.=
co.uk [tadream] < [email protected]> wrote:=20

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Hi Morgan,

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Hope you=E2=80=99re well. Been here a long time too. I can=E2=80=99t rememb=
er if anyone has commented on this but here=E2=80=99s this month=E2=80=99s =
hot potato.

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rvices.com/product_info.aspx?id=3D17490&qry=3D&key=3D&genre=3D24&pi=3D0> &q=
ry=3D&key=3D&genre=3D24&pi=3D0

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Cheers,

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Grant.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>=20
Sent: 28 October 2020 02:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15,=
 2020

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If the list doesn't move to Groups.io, it's not too difficult to set up a s=
elf-hosted mailing list.

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I was on Facebook for 5 years but realized how unbelievably addictive and a=
ntisocial it really is. Their insistence on one "Real Name" account and eve=
rything you share being visible by friends, family, acquaintances, coworker=
s, and customers is creating a dangerous brew of unrest and unmanageable ch=
aos. And Mark Zuckerberg does not care in the slightest. He's laughing all =
the way to the bank as our society is literally torn apart. So I've come to=
 have a renewed respect in siloed mailing lists and forums like this which =
let us share different facets of our personalities without sharing "everyth=
ing".

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I'm currently not on Facebook, and even when I very occasionally login to m=
y partner's account to check on friends and a gardening group I started, bo=
th the Zest and the TD Bootleg group are now sadly locked out unless you ar=
e specially invited. This seems insular and suboptimal, so at this point I'=
m oblivious to what's going on in the TD community except what little is po=
sted here. I'd hate to see the group go away.

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Morgan

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On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:05 AM 'vicochet' [email protected] [tadream=
] <[email protected]> wrote:

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Without this group I would not have met so many friends that eventually all=
owed me to obtain dozens of TD tapes and eventually start the Ricochet Gath=
erings,

which had 11 consecutive events from 2000-2010.

Vic

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From: mailto:[email protected]=20

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:34 PM

To: [email protected]=20

Subject: Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15,=
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I=E2=80=99ll concur that the groups work well =E2=80=93 as Chris suggests, =
you can almost completely avoid the =E2=80=9Csocial=E2=80=9D part of FB and=
 enjoy the groups, but it doesn=E2=80=99t hurt to =E2=80=9Cfollow=E2=80=9D =
musicians like Paul Haslinger, Robert Waters, and Ulrich Schnauss.  There i=
s good participation from members of the group as well in the Zest.  I=E2=
=80=99ve posted some questions and was surprised to have TQ answer them him=
self.

That said, I=E2=80=99ve been a member on here since UWP days in =E2=80=9992=
 =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve made some good friendships with people  on here..  =
Hopefully it can continue in some other form.

Jim

From: Chris Anderton [email protected] [tadream] <tadream@yahoogroup=
s.com>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM
To: Dave Brewer [email protected] [tadream] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15,=
 2020

Yeah, I've been here since the UWP days, though mostly on 'lurk' mode as th=
ere's not enough time in the day... I participated in the Trees/Leaves dist=
ro and have managed to collect huge quantities of bootleg recordings via me=
mbers of the group over the years.

The two facebook groups are pretty good, and you can join FB and these grou=
ps without getting involved in anything else that happens on FB (just amend=
 the settings). I don't post anything on a personal level, have turned off =
notifications, and don't pay attention to anything else on the site unless =
it relates to my day job.....

The two main sites (if you're interested) are:

The Zest - general discussion, and helpful for staying on top of official r=
eleases, including all ex-members and the Behind Closed Doors sessions that=
 Q has been doing: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheZest <https://eur06.s=
afelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgro=
ups%2FTheZest&data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e=
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Tangerine Dream related bootlegs and other unofficial stuff - more like the=
 tadream group I suppose:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/111898275640714 =
<https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.fa=
cebook.com%2Fgroups%2F111898275640714&data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c9=
44408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63739449193016=
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SfPA%3D&reserved=3D0>=20

The second group has had quite a few interesting recordings appear over the=
 last couple of years (better quality than the Leaves/Trees, or previously =
uncirculated). It looks like Wouter may not be posting any further download=
s on there as some of his remasters have been bootlegged commercially, but =
you never know. Some others on the page have also posted stuff, including a=
 colour version of the Athens 1983 TV special...=20

RIP Tadream / Yahoo Groups

All the best,

Chris

On Thursday, 15 October 2020, 15:04:55 BST, Dave Brewer [email protected] [=
tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:=20

That's what it sounds like to me.  It was only a matter of time once they d=
ecided to shut down the web section.  The official TD forums have been next=
 to dead for years now.  And there's been even less traffic here.  This kin=
d of online socializing is obsolete in the world of Facebook, Twitter, etc.=
  I personally do not subscribe to any social media as I'd rather be spendi=
ng my time doing other things than tracking all the insane activity there.

It does sadden me that this era is going to end.  It started with the origi=
nal TADREAM UWP list in the '90s and has been quite the ride since.  I'd sa=
y that a quarter century (or more?) has been quite a good run considering h=
ow quickly the internet has grown and evolved in that time.

Maybe we can somehow keep in touch in another way?

Regards,

Dave

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 6:19 AM '[email protected]' jimbo@freshbiscui=
ts.com [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:

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Does this mean the email group is going away?

Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020

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      <p><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">That=E2=80=99s where /I ordered mine from =
as well.<o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o>&nbsp;</o></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-top=
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;"> [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] <br><b>S=
ent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2020 1:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> tadream@yahoogro=
ups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting do=
wn on December 15, 2020<o></o></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><o>&nbsp;</o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><br><o></o></p><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">I think CDS in Dundee are =
about the cheapest at the moment with very good reliable delivery too. My P=
ilots set was sent out today. <o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Markus <o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=3D16117">BlueMail<=
/a> <o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 28 Oct 2020, at 16:52, =
&quot;Dave Brewer [email protected] [tadream]&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; <o></o></p><div id=3D"ygrp-te=
xt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&qu=
ot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">I was recently gifted the Hades box and have been m=
ethodically traversing through it. I'm looking forward to the Pilots box bu=
t some of the preorder prices are nuts. Looks like Europe's got the best. <=
o></o></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><o>&nbsp;</o></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;se=
rif&quot;;">I'm all for finding a new home for the list even though the act=
ivity's been light for the longest time. I'd love to chat about the boxes w=
ith you folks. And any other TD stuff too of course. <o></o></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot=
;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><o>&nbsp;</o></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Reg=
ards, <o></o></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Dave B <o></o></span></p>=
</div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia=
&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><o>&nbsp;</o></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"=
>On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 8:32 AM Morgan Feldon <a href=3D"mailto:feldon@feldo=
ncentral.com">[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt; <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote: <o></o></s=
pan></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:=
0in 0in 0in 0in;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&=
quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">&nbsp; <o></o></span></p><div id=3D"m_59772353750=
65875335ygrp-mlmsg"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"m_=
5977235375065875335ygrp-text"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"bac=
kground:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&=
quot;;">In Search of Hades was an irresistable proposition. Tons of live ma=
terial and professionally remastered albums. This is definitely a different=
 balance. If all you want is the Dominion Concert, it's even steeper. Still=
 I think it will be a desirable box with all the soundtracks and book. I ha=
ven't ordered yet -- checking finances -- but probably will soon due to exp=
ected limited run? <o></o></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quo=
t;serif&quot;;"><o>&nbsp;</o></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&=
quot;serif&quot;;">-Morgan <o></o></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&q=
uot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><o>&nbsp;</o></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia=
&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:44 PM Grant Somervill=
e <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">grant=
[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:tadream@yaho=
ogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote: <o></=
o></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;pad=
ding:0in 0in 0in 0in;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Geo=
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75335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003ygrp-text"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">Hi Morgan,<o></o></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></=
o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white=
;">Hope you=E2=80=99re well. Been here a long time too. I can=E2=80=99t rem=
ember if anyone has commented on this but here=E2=80=99s this month=E2=80=
=99s hot potato.<o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12=
..0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ma=
rgin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><a href=3D"https://www.cd-services.co=
m/product_info.aspx?id=3D17490&amp;qry=3D&amp;key=3D&amp;genre=3D24&amp;pi=
=3D0" target=3D"_blank">https://www.cd-services.com/product_info.aspx?id=3D=
17490&amp;qry=3D&amp;key=3D&amp;genre=3D24&amp;pi=3D0</a><o></o></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o><=
/o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:whit=
e;">Cheers,<o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;=
background:white;">&nbsp;<o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">Grant.<o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></o></p><div><div s=
tyle=3D"border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><b>From:</b=
> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">tadream@yaho=
ogroups.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email protected]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 28 October 2020 02:3=
3<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tadream] Farewell Yah=
oo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020<o></o></p></div></div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o><=
/o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:whit=
e;">&nbsp; <o></o></p><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-571530407349=
0079003ygrp-mlmsg"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-571530407349007=
9003ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003y=
grp-text"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;ba=
ckground:white;">If the list doesn't move to Groups.io, it's not too diffic=
ult to set up a self-hosted mailing list.<o></o></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></o></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">I=
 was on Facebook for 5 years but realized how unbelievably addictive and an=
tisocial it really is. Their insistence on one &quot;Real Name&quot; accoun=
t and everything you share being visible by friends, family, acquaintances,=
 coworkers, and customers is creating a dangerous brew of unrest and unmana=
geable chaos. And Mark Zuckerberg does not care in the slightest. He's laug=
hing all the way to the bank as our society is literally torn apart. So I'v=
e come to have a renewed respect in siloed mailing lists and forums like th=
is which let us share different facets of our personalities without sharing=
 &quot;everything&quot;.<o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></o></p></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">I=
'm currently not on Facebook, and even when I very occasionally login to my=
 partner's account to check on friends and a gardening group I started, bot=
h the Zest and the TD Bootleg group are now sadly locked out unless you are=
 specially invited. This seems insular and suboptimal, so at this point I'm=
 oblivious to what's going on in the TD community except what little is pos=
ted here. I'd hate to see the group go away.<o></o></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></=
o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;backg=
round:white;">Morgan<o></o></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">&nbsp;<o></o></p><div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">On Sa=
t, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:05 AM 'vicochet' <a href=3D"mailto:ricochetdream@gmail=
..com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<o></o></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid #C=
CCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">=
<span style=3D"color:black;">&nbsp; </span><o></o></p><div id=3D"m_59772353=
75065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ygrp-mlms=
g"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_3097=
419078731212476ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-571530407=
3490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ygrp-text"><div><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"=
color:black;">Without this group I would not have met so many friends that =
eventually allowed me to obtain dozens of TD tapes and eventually start the=
 Ricochet Gatherings,</span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:black;"=
>which had 11 consecutive events from 2000-2010.</span><o></o></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><=
span style=3D"color:black;">Vic</span><o></o></p></div><div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><o></o></p></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;">=
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> <a href=3D"mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.=
com" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"[email protected]">mailto:tadream@yah=
oogroups.com</a> </span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;color:black;">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:bla=
ck;"> Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:34 PM</span><o></o></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;color:black;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank" title=3D"[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <=
/span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:1=
2.0pt;background:white;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">S=
ubject:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> Re: [tadre=
am] Farewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020</span><o></o>=
</p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12=
..0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:black;">&nbsp;</span><o></o></=
p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;bac=
kground:white;"><span style=3D"color:black;">&nbsp; </span><o></o></p><div =
id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_309741907873=
1212476ygrp-text"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt=
;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:black;">I=E2=80=99ll concur that t=
he groups work well =E2=80=93 as Chris suggests, you can almost completely =
avoid the =E2=80=9Csocial=E2=80=9D part of FB and enjoy the groups, but it =
doesn=E2=80=99t hurt to =E2=80=9Cfollow=E2=80=9D musicians like Paul Haslin=
ger, Robert Waters, and Ulrich Schnauss.&nbsp; There is good participation =
from members of the group as well in the Zest.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve posted so=
me questions and was surprised to have TQ answer them himself.</span><o></o=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;=
"><span style=3D"color:black;">That said, I=E2=80=99ve been a member on her=
e since UWP days in =E2=80=9992 =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve made some good frien=
dships with people&nbsp; on here..&nbsp; Hopefully it can continue in some =
other form.</span><o></o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:black;">Jim</span><o></o></p=
><div style=3D"border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><b><sp=
an style=3D"color:black;">From: </span></b><span style=3D"color:black;">Chr=
is Anderton <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">c=
[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tadream@yahoogr=
oups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Date: </b=
>Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM<br><b>To: </b>Dave Brewer <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [tadr=
eam] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">tadre=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [tadream] Farewell Yahoo =
Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020</span><o></o></p></div><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;=
serif&quot;;color:black;">Yeah, I've been here since the UWP days, though m=
ostly on 'lurk' mode as there's not enough time in the day... I participate=
d in the Trees/Leaves distro and have managed to collect huge quantities of=
 bootleg recordings via members of the group over the years.</span><o></o><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;backgrou=
nd:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue=
&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black;">The two facebook groups are pretty g=
ood, and you can join FB and these groups without getting involved in anyth=
ing else that happens on FB (just amend the settings). I don't post anythin=
g on a personal level, have turned off notifications, and don't pay attenti=
on to anything else on the site unless it relates to my day job.....</span>=
<o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;=
background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvet=
ica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black;">The two main sites (if you'r=
e interested) are:</span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black;">The=
 Zest - general discussion, and helpful for staying on top of official rele=
ases, including all ex-members and the Behind Closed Doors sessions that Q =
has been doing: <a href=3D"https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?=
url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FTheZest&amp;data=3D04%7C01%=
7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C=
1%7C0%7C637394491930164476%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQ=
IjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3DL8G%2BhX9L%2F=
NfgFhjLK%2FEitFfqCOFSjVxJN36EGJ4%2B7so%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheZest</a>&nbsp;</span><o></o></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white=
;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&=
quot;serif&quot;;color:black;">Tangerine Dream related bootlegs and other u=
nofficial stuff - more like the tadream group I suppose:&nbsp; <a href=3D"h=
ttps://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.face=
book.com%2Fgroups%2F111898275640714&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480=
c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930=
164476%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6=
Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3Dxhxsr7yMkmshALShbcmQgNNFWXyFKsM69=
r5etXXSfPA%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/=
groups/111898275640714</a></span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:bla=
ck;">The second group has had quite a few interesting recordings appear ove=
r the last couple of years (better quality than the Leaves/Trees, or previo=
usly uncirculated). It looks like Wouter may not be posting any further dow=
nloads on there as some of his remasters have been bootlegged commercially,=
 but you never know. Some others on the page have also posted stuff, includ=
ing a colour version of the Athens 1983 TV special... </span><o></o></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:whi=
te;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;=
,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black;">RIP Tadream / Yahoo Groups</span><o></o></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;backgroun=
d:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black;">All the best,</span><o></o></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black;">Chris</span><o></o></p></div></div><div id=3D=
"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_30974190787312124=
76ydp2d867c47yahoo_quoted_3500872408"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#26282A;">=
On Thursday, 15 October 2020, 15:04:55 BST, Dave Brewer <a href=3D"mailto:d=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">tadream@yahoogrou=
ps.com</a>&gt; wrote: </span><o></o></p></div><div><div id=3D"m_59772353750=
65875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47y=
iv3600349299"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">That's what it sou=
nds like to me.&nbsp; It was only a matter of time once they decided to shu=
t down the web section.&nbsp; The official TD forums have been next to dead=
 for years now.&nbsp; And there's been even less traffic here.&nbsp; This k=
ind of online socializing is obsolete in the world of Facebook, Twitter, et=
c.&nbsp; I personally do not subscribe to any social media as I'd rather be=
 spending my time doing other things than tracking all the insane activity =
there.</span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-b=
ottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">It does sadd=
en me that this era is going to end.&nbsp; It started with the original TAD=
REAM UWP list in the '90s and has been quite the ride since.&nbsp; I'd say =
that a quarter century (or more?) has been quite a good run considering how=
 quickly the internet has grown and evolved in that time.</span><o></o></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:=
white;"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">Maybe we can somehow keep in touch i=
n another way?</span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">Rega=
rds,</span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bot=
tom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"color:#26282A;">Dave</span><o>=
</o></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom=
:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#26282A;">On Thu, Oct 15, 20=
20 at 6:19 AM '<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email protected]</a>' <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [tadream] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</span><o></o></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid #CCCC=
CC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-=
right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin=
-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#26282A;">&nbsp; </sp=
an><o></o></p><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003g=
mail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv3600349299gmail-m_-2853588436104518=
237ygrp-mlmsg"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003=
gmail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv3600349299gmail-m_-285358843610451=
8237ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"m_5977235375065875335gmail-m_-5715304073490079003g=
mail-m_3097419078731212476ydp2d867c47yiv3600349299gmail-m_-2853588436104518=
237ygrp-text"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;bac=
kground:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
 Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#26282A;">Does this mean the email grou=
p is going away?</span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#26282A;">F=
arewell Yahoo Groups! Shutting down on December 15, 2020<br><br><a href=3D"=
https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fpocket.=
co%2Fxhrv7r&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc694589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df=
9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637394491930174475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpb=
GZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7=
C1000&amp;sdata=3DQW%2Fy7H1GtRYgnCb6%2BA%2BGFI%2B6X4mOstVRO1VJI7Nw7yU%3D&am=
p;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blank">https://www..ghacks.net/2020/10/14/farewe=
ll-yahoo-groups-shutting-down-on-december-15-2020/</a><br><br>Sent from Poc=
ket - <a href=3D"https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp=
s%3A%2F%2Fgetpocket.com%2Fgo%3Fsrc%3Demail&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ccc68dc69=
4589480c944408d87ae9d102%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63739=
4491930174475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL=
CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3Dyk4zDXuMtg6roTjz0kHBhn6BWN=
s4MlTZhCQ4y6GjgEg%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blank">Get it free!</a></=
span><o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12=
..0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica Neue&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#26282A;">- J</span><o></o></p>=
</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></=
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