Re: Combining three graphs into one

Hi Alan,

Thanks much for your help! I'm glad folks like you are behind the  
scenes at TMobile; makes me glad I've had Tmobile as my mobile  
carrier for over 4 years now...

Here are my RRA definitions; I'm posting them for general comments/ 
list reference.  I hope folks call me out if I've missed a step or  
have the wrong idea here on the calculations:

RRA step definition: 60 seconds

RRA database definitions:
# one point per minute, spanning 50 hours
rra        minAve       AVERAGE:0.5:1:3000
# one point per 5 minutes, spanning 12 days
rra        5minAve      AVERAGE:0.5:5:3456
# one point every 5 minutes, spanning 50 days
rra        monthAve        AVERAGE:0.5:5:14400
# one point every 30 minutes, spanning 400 days
rra        yearAve       AVERAGE:0.5:30:19200

Thanks.  I plan to follow your suggestions tomorrow morning and will  
keep you posted as to what results I get.

Ernie
=)

On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Alan Edmonds wrote:

> First take a backup of your cricket-config and cricket-data :-)
>
> You need to edit the Defaults file (or somewhere) the new RRA  
> definitions.  They only get used when creating new RRDs (I think -  
> can someone else confirm this?)
>
> What you could do is create a subdirectory under cricket-config  
> called something like "archive" etc.
> Move your existing cricket-config into this directory (including  
> Defaults).  Then in your
> cricket-data directory; do the same thing.  Create a subdir  
> "archive" (or whatever you called it under cricket-config).
> And move everything under that subdir.
>
> Caution: turn off the collector during this work.  Otherwise it  
> could recreate things wrong.
>
> Then edit your Defaults file with the new 1 min polling RRA  
> definitions - Please post them to the list.  I'm sure people are  
> interested.
>
> Then you can recompile the config and startup the collector.
>
> I don't think you need to change the grapher - see what things look  
> like.  If you want to change it, you can just adjust the stuff  
> dealing with ranges.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernesto Rubi [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 25 June 2007 19:44
> To: Alan Edmonds
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [cricket-users] Combining three graphs into one
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> I really hate to be a bother but I have one more questions for you  
> regarding this.  I've calculated the new RRA definitions, edited  
> the crontab to poll at one minute intervals; however I've not  
> changed the Defaults file under the cricket-config directory.
>
> I want to now move to the new polling, but keep the old RRD graphs  
> as historical data; how can I keep these graphs around and  
> accessible? I have all the cricket-data RRD files but again, need  
> to move it to like a "previous history" directory before the change.
>
> Also, what file do I need to change to change the grapher?
>
> Ernesto
> On May 29, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Alan Edmonds wrote:
>
>> That's a bit tougher. you need to edit your crontab to poll at one  
>> minute intervals.
>> The harder job is to create new rra definitions for 1 min  
>> resolution data points.
>> If you do this, you will loose all of the data you have collected  
>> so far.
>>
>> To change the grapher, that's not so bad.  You have to just change  
>> the values of the ranges in grapher.cgi.  But it won't change the  
>> data.
>> I added a new range "half-week" to my grapher that shows three and  
>> a half days.  It's handy for looking back over a three day weekend.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ernesto Rubi [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 29 May 2007 19:04
>> To: Alan Edmonds
>> Subject: Re: [cricket-users] Combining three graphs into one
>>
>> Now that we're on the subject, do you know how I can bring the  
>> polling time to 1 minute, 5 minutes, 5 minutes and 30 minutes for  
>> the daily,weekly,monthly and yearly graphs for all my graphs?   
>> I've looked for a global config file to do this but I can't find it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On May 29, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Alan Edmonds wrote:
>>
>>> did it work?  It should be target-type not targe-type and it  
>>> should be the type of target (just like the GigabitEthernet3/6  
>>> target entries.  )
>>> The values of mtargets are the target NAMEs.
>>>
>>> examples
>>>
>>> target interface1
>>>     target-type = standard-interface
>>>     short-desc = "blah blah blah"
>>>
>>> target interface2
>>>     target-type = standard-interface
>>>     short-desc = "balh..."
>>>
>>> target WHREN
>>>     target-type = standard-interface
>>>     mtargets = "interface1;interface2"
>>>     mtarget-ops = sum()
>>> or
>>>     mtargets-ops = sum()
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ernesto Rubi [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 29 May 2007 16:47
>>> To: Alan Edmonds
>>> Subject: Re: [cricket-users] Combining three graphs into one
>>>
>>> target WHREN
>>>         mtargets =  
>>> "GigabitEthernet3/6;GigabitEthernet3/3.2006-802.1Q vLAN subif"
>>>         mtargets-ops = sum()
>>>         targe-type = mtargets-ops
>>>         short-desc    =    "Combined  Traffic on STM-16"
>>>         long-desc    =    "Combined Traffic on STM-16"
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Alan Edmonds wrote:
>>>
>>>> It could also be mtarget-ops or mtargets-ops.  There is some  
>>>> disagreement in the code as well.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ernesto Rubi [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: 29 May 2007 16:43
>>>> To: Alan Edmonds
>>>> Subject: Re: [cricket-users] Combining three graphs into one
>>>>
>>>> Should the target type be: "sub-interface"?
>>>> I've specified the name to be something other than "all" and it  
>>>> didn't complain.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for the prompt help!
>>>>
>>>> On May 29, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Alan Edmonds wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You also need a target-type entry as well.....
>>>>>
>>>>> copy an existing target.
>>>>> change the name to  "all" or something like that - the name  
>>>>> doesn't matter that much.
>>>>> Add the mtargets = and mtargets-ops = tags and that should do it.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ernesto Rubi [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: 29 May 2007 16:31
>>>>> To: Alan Edmonds
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cricket-users] Combining three graphs into one
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks, I'll config that now...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ernie
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 29, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Alan Edmonds wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> piece of cake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create a new target
>>>>>>
>>>>>> target all
>>>>>> mtargets = "interface1;interface2;interface3"
>>>>>> mtargets-ops = sum()
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf  
>>>>>> Of Ernesto
>>>>>> Rubi
>>>>>> Sent: 29 May 2007 16:09
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: [cricket-users] Combining three graphs into one
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking to combine the values of three different  
>>>>>> interfaces into
>>>>>> one 'aggregate' graph showing the total traffic going across the
>>>>>> router.  Does anyone have any docs or an idea on how to get  
>>>>>> this done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ernesto
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>> Florida International Univ, Miami
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> Ernesto M. Rubi
> Sr. Network Engineer
> AMPATH/CIARA
> Florida International Univ, Miami
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