Re: DJB DNS trademark issue

Dean Anderson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.djbdns
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Sigh. More personal attacks. And like the others, devoid of any facts
that would prove their truth or even justify their belief.  Raftery and
Weldon have posted together only 31 messages on the DJBDNS list, and not
terribly clueful messages at that (e.g seeking help with supervise,
etc).  I always think it odd when infrequent and mostly helpless posters
decide to post unfounded personal attacks...

But in my defense, on 4 major controversies on law and the internet that
I either participated in or voiced opinions on, my views and positions
were ultimately vindicated.  I have only been involved in 4 major
controversies, so the score is Dean (4), Levine, Vixie, Cerf et al(0).  
I probably should have a page on that subject, since it comes up every
once in a while, but it seems narcissistic.

It turns out that all the controversies trace back to the same
racketeering operation run by Cerf and Steve Crocker. Cerf and Crocker
are linked to SEX.COM thief Stephen Cohen, and used ARIN (improperly) to
assist Cohen's flight from justice.  Cerf recently asserted an improper
controlling interest in the ISOC exposing his control of the frauds.  
In that light, it seems Vixie, Levine, Joffe et al are just middle
management. Vixie and cronies currently exercise the offices of ARIN
trustees without legal authorization because they weren't properly
elected, and are transferring money and resources from ARIN to NANOG:
(e.g. a $50,000 check, maybe more checks, and picking up NANOG meeting
expenses)

Most people probably know this, but John Levine and Paul Vixie et al
were unmasked as spammers:
http://www.iad.org/whitehat/whitehat-story.html 
Levine was also discredited on other mattters at
http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/People/JohnLevine/index.html

		--Dean

On Sat, 23 May 2009, James Raftery wrote:

> On 23 May 2009, at 01:33, John Levine wrote:
> > Ah, so there is no trademark.  Then why are you wasting our time?
> 
> It may not be his fault. I've long suspected that time wasting is all  
> the Dean-bot is programmed to do.
> 
> 
> james
> 

On Sat, 23 May 2009, Larry Weldon wrote:

> James Raftery wrote:
> > On 23 May 2009, at 01:33, John Levine wrote:
> >> Ah, so there is no trademark.  Then why are you wasting our time?
> >
> > It may not be his fault. I've long suspected that time wasting is all 
> > the Dean-bot is programmed to do.
> >
> >
> > james
> 
> He doesn't understand the difference between Google paid advertisements 
> based on search terms (Google Adwords) and Google hits based on search 
> terms. In either case trademark is a mistaken word choice.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> 

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