Re: Just a very quick remark on system theory Re: Why don't we talk about segments/objects instaead of layers? Re: Lost Layer?
Saverio Mascolo <[email protected]> Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:07:10 +0100
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On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Detlef Bosau <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 19.02.2014 12:22, schrieb Saverio Mascolo: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Detlef Bosau <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And this is particularly true for engineers as they often don't see the >> "real" system equations but only the Laplace transform. >> > > laplace transform are equivalent to linear differential equation > > > Yes. And pigs can fly. > i would say like planets that fly following the Newton differential equations. I think you really need to do some fundamental studies, starting back since leonardo da vinci and galileo *«* La filosofia è scritta in questo grandissimo libro che continuamente ci sta aperto innanzi a gli occhi (io dico l'universo), ma non si può intendere se prima non s'impara a intender la lingua, e conoscer i caratteri, ne' quali è scritto. *Egli è scritto in lingua matematica, *e i caratteri son triangoli, cerchi, ed altre figure geometriche, senza i quali mezzi è impossibile a intenderne umanamente parola; senza questi è un aggirarsi vanamente per un oscuro laberinto. *»* (Galileo Galilei, *Il Saggiatore <http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Saggiatore_(Galileo)>*, Cap. VI<http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Il_Saggiatore/6#La_filosofia> ) > You never read a text book on analysis and the requirements for the > backward transformation to be unique? At least, things are extremele tricky > here. > of course are unique in all cases that are of practical interest. did you ever had a basic control course? the one where they teach how to use laplace transform to solve differential equations? > > Nevertheless: Differential equations are not suitable for the Internet, > neither is the Laplace Transform. > van Jacobson: "a network is made of gains, integrator and delays" please go back to study ;) On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Detlef Bosau <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 19.02.2014 12:22, schrieb Saverio Mascolo: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Detlef Bosau <[email protected]>wrote: > >> And this is particularly true for engineers as they often don't see the >> "real" system equations but only the Laplace transform. >> > > laplace transform are equivalent to linear differential equation > > > Yes. And pigs can fly. > > You never read a text book on analysis and the requirements for the > backward transformation to be unique? At least, things are extremele tricky > here. > > Nevertheless: Differential equations are not suitable for the Internet, > neither is the Laplace Transform. > > It is funny how the reactions are when I only point to what everyone knows > for decades: We worship a religion here. > -- Saverio Mascolo, Full Professor Dipartimento di Elettrotecnica ed Elettronica Politecnico di Bari Via Orabona 4, 70125 Bari Italy Tel. +39 080 5963621 Fax. +39 080 5963410 email:[email protected] http://c3lab.poliba.it ================================= This message may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please destroy it. Any unauthorized dissemination, distribution, or copying of the material in this message, and any attachments to the message, is strictly forbidden.