Re: Data messages

On Thursday 24 June 2004 18:56, Rodney Dawes wrote:

*snip that-which-could-easily-become-a-small-pointless-flamewar*

> If you just give me the user and service
> when requesting the password, that is probably good enough,
Could be done. What about more generalised password management, where 
you're just handed a key (which will probably be nonsense, or at very 
least user-unfriendly), the user-friendly text explaining what the 
password is for, and expected to provide the relevant password, without 
any necessary connection to a local account. Is that doable?

> > > The UI needs to be able to get buddy icons.
> >
> > Oh, wibble. This is going to be...interesting. None of the service
> > *libraries* currently support buddy icons, let alone the core
> > plumbing.
>
> Jabber should be easy to add code to to support buddy icons, since it
> is just an XML protocol, and is very Open.

It's quite possible there's a spec already out there...Cory, you're the 
one who'll know about this, what's the score?


> > * AIM/ICQ - using an old, effectively orphaned TOC library.
> > To support buddy icons: We would need to integrate libfaim or
> > something like it.
>
> Yeah. Once we get libfaim, I might actually be able to reliably
> connect to AIM/ICQ with eb-lite. :)

One can only hope so. Unfortunately, what one tends to need for these 
exercises is for one of the many people thinking it would be great if 
this happened to go and do it :^)

> > * MSN - Using my libmsn, which has now been taken over by Mark
> > Rowe. To support buddy icons: Mark needs to implement handling for
> > the SIP bits of MSNP8. This is...non-trivial.
>
> I don't know how the MSN stuff works. I guess it doesn't really have
> buddy icons,
Actually, it does, they appear in the bottom-right of the window in 
normal chat, and does look like it's about 48x48 (certainly 1:1 
aspect). The real problem is that Mark needs to implement the SIP 
subset (I think it's a subset, at least) that MSN uses, which could 
be...hairy. hypothetic.org has some docs, but even those are a bit 
sketchy.

> > * Yahoo - Using libyahoo2, Craig's patch. Does Yahoo even support
> > buddy icons? I know it supports webcams, and I suppose it would be
> > possible to use the last webcam image, but can we do any better?
>
> We could fix either libyahoo2 or the plug-in itself to look up the
> user's profile page, screen read it, and grab their picture, if there
> is one.

*Wince*. If that's as must be, I guess...Craig/Philip/someone else who 
knows, can you enlighten us here?

> > There's also the matter of possibly emulating buddy icons for
> > services which don't support it...
>
> Yes. Senility will store the images
Yeah, I was thinking more in terms of within eb-lite. Or do you mean 
senility fetching images *from* the evolution db and shoving them into 
eb-lite? That could be quite cool. UI-designated buddy icons are 
probably a good idea anyway.


Meredydd