Re: iChat vs Bonjour was Introducing the Fire Wiki

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Hi,

I have a few clarifications about the Bonjour vs Rendezvous vs iChat =20
confusion.  The frustrating part of this matter is that the confusion =20=

is due to Apple branding two technologies with the same name:  a low-=20
level network service, and a higher level service that uses the low-=20
level service as a minor part of its functionality.

1) Bonjour and Rendezvous are two names for the same thing.  They =20
allow your computer to discover other computers on the local network =20
without requiring a central server.  They don't relate to instant =20
messaging at all, though Apple has chosen to refer to iChat's local =20
chat support simply as 'Bonjour' rather than the more accurate 'local =20=

chat service that uses Bonjour for buddy discovery'.

2) Apple's iChat instant messaging client supports several services =20
in the most recent version:  AIM, Jabber, and Bonjour.  Previous =20
versions supported AIM and Bonjour.  Because iChat supports more than =20=

one protocol it would be unclear to say that Fire supports 'iChat' =20
when referring to the fact that we can interoperate with iChat's =20
Bonjour chat service.

3) Bonjour is in not reall like AppleTalk at all.  In the context of =20
'Bonjour the network technology' it provides two things:  automatic =20
IP address assignment, and automatic discovery of network services.  =20
This is similar to the AppleTalk Address Resolution Protocol, but is =20
where the similarities end.  AppleTalk is more comparable to the TCP/=20
IP network suite.  In the context of 'Bonjour the chat service' =20
Bonjour provides automatic discovery of buddies, instant messaging, =20
and file transfers.

I hope this clears things up :-)

Regards,

Mark Rowe
<http://bdash.net.nz/>


On 15/07/2005, at 10:15 , Allyn J. Crowe wrote:

> Bonjour is a local networking protocol.  It replaced the name of =20
> rendevous (due to name infringement if I remember correctly)
>
> You can chat, share files, etc.  Its kinda like appletalk.
>
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> Allyn Crowe
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> On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Sven AERTS wrote:
>
>
>> On 14 Jul 2005, at 16:42, Paul Vittorino wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Sven AERTS wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Say, a question: I see that you mention:
>>>>
>>>> "Fire can handle similtaneous connections to AIM=AE, ICQ=AE, Yahoo!=20=

>>>> =AE, IRC, MSN=AE, Jabber and Bonjour (aka Apple Rendezvous)."
>>>>
>>>> Why do you use "Bonjour" iso iChat ? Will you run into trouble =20
>>>> with Apple if you use the word iChat?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would guess the reason is that since iChat is both an AIM =20
>>> client and a Bonjour client, it's pretty clear that since Fire =20
>>> supports AIM that you can talk to other buddies using iChat. But =20
>>> by explicitly saying Bonjour, you state that Fire support the =20
>>> impromptu IM via Bonjour that iChat supports. To any of the devs, =20=

>>> please correct me if I have misspoken.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> is Bonjour a chat client ?! Good luck if you want to find that in =20
>> google. Do you have an url?
>> Is it any good or popular in the french speaking community?
>> Or is Bonjour maybe the french version of iChat or Rendez-vous?
>>
>> Sven- living in a bilingual capital .. which makes me wonder =20
>> sometimes... Brussels
>>
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