Re: Re: [Tech] flaming ;-)

Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.freenet.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
What do you think we've been doing for the last N years? The whole
purpose of a darknet would be to make it hard to detect. As far as
"absolute freedom of speech" goes, nobody has yet convinced me that the
Church of Scientology, Diebold or the office of Richard Nixon would be
able to censor material which is in the public interest.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 03:22:46AM +0000, Anonymous Sender wrote:
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> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:01:07 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > Well, the point is: The alternative is that the only people who will
> > > ever use freenet are:
> > > a) Seriously dedicated libertarians like us, who consider the kiddy porn
> > > to be a price worth paying, and
> > > b) Psychos who don't care.
> >
> > I have no further arguments than the ones presented by others, but for
> > the record I'm too against any censorship. C.p. and whatever are
> > problems to be dealt with in the real world. Internet is already full of
> > questionable content.
> >
> > What I think is that Freenet must be an attempt at the purest free
> > speech. The moment it has some censorship in place it will be worth no
> > more than any other politically correct project (just IMO, of course).
> 
> 
> This is my point exactly.  Absoulte freedom of speech is, in my 
> mind, the ONLY proper goal for something like freenet.  Anything 
> less is a betrayal of the whole
> idea of freenet.
> 
> I hate the c.p. also, but in spite of that, ANY form of 
> censorship must be made to be impossible or at the very least, 
> EXTREMELY difficult.
> 
> I would honestly suggest:
> 
> 1) Effort should go to make freenet even more anonymous than it 
> is now.  It should be absolutely without question as impossible 
> to identify a poster.. OR prevent them from posting.
> 
> 2) It should be made as difficult as possible to identify what 
> content is stored on what node, and / or to comply with a 
> 'remove this' order from a TLA
> 
> 3) Freenet needs to be increasingly difficult to detect or block 
> by ISP's or govt agency's, including NSA/CIA/FBI/Homeland 
> Security.  (yes, I believe that IS possible, and achiveable)
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.

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