Re: Newbie questions

Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab-S0/[email protected]> Mon, 23 Jan 2017 23:10:40 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.network.freenet.support
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Amuza <[email protected]> writes:

> On 22/01/17 19:01, Steve Dougherty wrote:
>> On 01/22/2017 12:27 PM, Amuza wrote:
>>> Does Freenet have any kind of real asynchronous messaging?
>> Yes, and it depends what you mean.
>
> I mean, something like this:
> Alice is online and sends a message which has Caroline (her Freenet
> friend) as the recipient, but Caroline is offline. Fortunately Barbara
> (who is a common Freenet friend of both Alice and Caroline) is online.
> Then Alice goes offline. Then Caroline goes online and receives Alice's
> message. Barbara (or other common online Freenet friend) automatically
> forwarded the message without being able to read it.

If you use freemail (email over Freenet), then yes: The data is uploaded
in encrypted form into Freenet and only Caroline can decrypt it. Barbara
does not even need to be a direct friend of the two: It can be any other
freenet node.

This is the generalized case of what you describe and powers most of the
pseudonymous communication in Freenet.

>>> If so, how does it work?
>> Darknet peers can send direct messages by clicking on the peer's name on
>> the friends page. If the peers are not both online and connected the
>> message will be deferred until they are. The user interface for this is
>> very poor but it does function.
>>
>> Otherwise, messaging tools like FLIP, Freemail, or Sone can do that.
>> [1][2][3] They work by inserting and fetching the messages as files.
>>
>
> I guess some of those three messaging tools do somehow the kind of
> asynchronous messaging I meant. Do they?

Freemail does the private communication.
Sone does Social-network-style communication with pseudonyms.
FLIP implements chat with an IRC interface.

> It does! Great explanations! As soon as I have a while I will try Freenet.
>
> Let me ask another one, this one is more difficult:
>
> In the case you, or anyone in this list, know a bit about other
> more-or-less similar decentralized tools like Retroshare, Zeronet, Tox,
> IPFS, etc, could you very briefly compare them to Freenet and easily say
> some advantage or disadvantage of some of those tools over Freenet?

For zeronet there=E2=80=99s an answer by Chris Double. Scroll down to Concl=
usion
for a comparison:
https://bluishcoder.co.nz/2015/01/15/decentralized-websites-with-zeronet.ht=
ml

A note on IPFS and Freenet is available in his article about hosting
websites in Freenet (though mainly focused on hosting with Freenet):
https://bluishcoder.co.nz/2015/09/14/using-freenet-for-static-websites.html

For a comparison of Freenet with several other tools, see
http://www.draketo.de/proj/freenet-funding/#sec-9

Best wishes,
Arne
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Unpolitisch sein
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ohne es zu merken

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