Support Digest, Vol 83, Issue 5
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Re: Newbie questions (Steve Dougherty) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:55:45 -0500 From: neuman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3. Message-ID: <a63f35d7-2366-05f8-4bec-4a8f00e6090e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I installed freenet on a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in the wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to figure out how to access the web console from my main computer. Im following the directions here: https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the directions and a few other pages I've found on google. fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101 In my wrapper.log I found the two following errors: Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888 Could not bind to some of the interfaces specified for port 8888 : [192.168.1.101] Any suggestions? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:24:00 +0000 From: Freenet <freenet-/[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3. Message-ID: <69f3e4b2-ec34-4023-014c-9fb9dbe1fb07-/[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Change the fproxy.bindTo= to 192.168.1.130 instead of 192.168.1.101 neuman: > I installed freenet on a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in the > wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to figure out how > to access the web console from my main computer. > > Im following the directions here: > https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan > > I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the > directions and a few other pages I've found on google. > > fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 > fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 > fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 > > > pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101 > > > In my wrapper.log I found the two following errors: > > Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888 > Could not bind to some of the interfaces specified for port 8888 : > [192.168.1.101] > > > Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > [email protected] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request-RdDMkVZAZeuJnvDnx1genB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org?subject=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:50:37 +0000 From: Stephen Mollett <molletts-/[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3. Message-ID: <b5359b83-795d-869c-ece7-464e787674fd-/[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, On 23/01/17 12:55, neuman wrote: > I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini ... > fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 > fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 > fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 > > pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101 You need to put 192.168.1.130 in the fproxy.bindTo line instead of 192.168.1.101. That line governs what addresses the proxy accepts connections through; the others govern where the connections can come from (so they're correct in listing your main computer's address). Hope this helps, Stephen ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:20:51 +0000 From: Steve Dougherty <steve-kVTqj8yhOEv2eFz/[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Newbie questions Message-ID: <CAC+9PX58cV4Cw2n5EBYiwpAEs7yrELAeR=hK=YqFLUjBg4YYTA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The Tor comparison is easiest to answer because there's a FAQ entry: https://freenetproject.org/help.html#tor On Mon, Jan 23, 2017, 6:14 AM Amuza <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 22/01/17 19:01, Steve Dougherty wrote: > > On 01/22/2017 12:27 PM, Amuza wrote: > > Hello! > > I have never tried Freenet but I already have some questions: > > How do nodes discover each other? > > In opennet mode ("normal" or "low" network security) they connect to > seed nodes (a list of which is included with the software) run by > volunteers which provide them with an initial set of possible > connections, and during normal operation performs path folding to > maintain and improve its connections. [0] > > When not in opennet mode (and therefore in "darknet mode;" if both modes > are in use it's "hybrid") connections must be manually and mutually added. > > > Can nodes within a LAN connect to each other without any special > configuration? > > It depends on what you mean by special configuration. It does require > that the nodes' operators add one another as "friends" by trading node > references, but this is intended as routine configuration. > > > Do they need Internet access? > > No, but note that a completely isolated darknet would have no way to > access the content available through the public opennet network. This > includes updates to the software. As long as one member of the darknet > is also connected to opennet this will not be the case. (Though > performance will be slow.) > > > Would nodes keep automatically connecting when they are in a LAN where > some days there is no Internet access? > > Yes. > > > Does Freenet have any kind of real asynchronous messaging? > > Yes, and it depends what you mean. > > > I mean, something like this: > Alice is online and sends a message which has Caroline (her Freenet > friend) as the recipient, but Caroline is offline. Fortunately Barbara (who > is a common Freenet friend of both Alice and Caroline) is online. Then > Alice goes offline. Then Caroline goes online and receives Alice's message. > Barbara (or other common online Freenet friend) automatically forwarded the > message without being able to read it. > > If so, how does it work? > > Darknet peers can send direct messages by clicking on the peer's name on > the friends page. If the peers are not both online and connected the > message will be deferred until they are. The user interface for this is > very poor but it does function. > > Otherwise, messaging tools like FLIP, Freemail, or Sone can do that. > [1][2][3] They work by inserting and fetching the messages as files. > > > > I guess some of those three messaging tools do somehow the kind of > asynchronous messaging I meant. Do they? > > Thank you!! > > Yep. :) Hope this helps. > > - Steve > > > > It does! Great explanations! As soon as I have a while I will try Freenet. > > Let me ask another one, this one is more difficult: > > In the case you, or anyone in this list, know a bit about other > more-or-less similar decentralized tools like Retroshare, Zeronet, Tox, > IPFS, etc, could you very briefly compare them to Freenet and easily say > some advantage or disadvantage of some of those tools over Freenet? > > Thanks again. > > [0] https://wiki.freenetproject.org/Opennet > [1] > USK@pGQPA-9PcFiE3A2tCuCjacK165UaX07AQYw98iDQrNA,8gwQ67ytBNR03hNj7JU~ceeew22HVq6G50dcEeMcgks,AQACAAE/flip/12/ > [2] http://freesocial.draketo.de/freemail_en.html > [3] > USK@nwa8lHa271k2QvJ8aa0Ov7IHAV-DFOCFgmDt3X6BpCI,DuQSUZiI~agF8c-6tjsFFGuZ8eICrzWCILB60nT8KKo,AQACAAE/sone/75/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing [email protected]://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request-RdDMkVZAZeuJnvDnx1genB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org?subject=unsubscribe <support-request-RdDMkVZAZeuJnvDnx1genB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > [email protected] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request-RdDMkVZAZeuJnvDnx1genB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org?subject=unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Headless in= stall on Pi3. (neuman)<br> 2. Re: Headless install on Pi3. (Fre= enet)<br> 3. Re: Headless install on Pi3. (Stephen Mollett)<br>= 4. Re: Newbie questions (Steve Dougherty)<br><div><br></div><b= r>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br= ><div><br></div>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:55:45 -0500<br>From= : neuman <[email protected]><br>To: [email protected]<br>= Subject: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.<br>Message-ID: <a63f= 35d7-2366-05f8-4bec-4a8f00e6090e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org><br>Content-Type: text/plain;= charset=3Dutf-8; format=3Dflowed<br><div><br></div>I installed freenet on = a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in the <br>wrapper its working fine, = but I can't seem to be able to figure out how <br>to access the web c= onsole from my main computer.<br><div><br></div>Im following the directions= here: <br>https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan<br><div><br></di= v>I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the <br>dire= ctions and a few other pages I've found on google.<br><div><br></div>fproxy= .allowedHosts=3D127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>fproxy.bindTo=3D= 127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=3D= 127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br><div><br></div><br>pi3 address i= s 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101<br><div><br></d= iv><br>In my wrapper.log I found the two following errors:<br><div><br></di= v>Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888<br>Could not bind t= o some of the interfaces specified for port 8888 : <br>[192.168.1.101]<br><= div><br></div><br>Any suggestions?<br><div><br></div><br>------------------= ------------<br><div><br></div>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:24:0= 0 +0000<br>From: Freenet <freenet-/[email protected]><br>To: support@freenet= project.org<br>Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.<br>M= essage-ID: <69f3e4b2-ec34-4023-014c-9fb9dbe1fb07-/[email protected]><br>Cont= ent-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8<br><div><br></div>Change the fproxy.b= indTo=3D to 192.168.1.130 instead of 192.168.1.101<br><div><br></div>neuman= :<br>> I installed freenet on a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in t= he<br>> wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to f= igure out how<br>> to access the web console from my main computer.<br>&= gt; <br>> Im following the directions here:<br>> https://freenetproje= ct.org/help.html#fproxy-lan<br>> <br>> I've modified the following li= nes in my freenet.ini based on the<br>> directions and a few other pages= I've found on google.<br>> <br>> fproxy.allowedHosts=3D127.0.0.1,192= .168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>> fproxy.bindTo=3D127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,= 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>> fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=3D127.0.0.1,192.168.1= .101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>> <br>> <br>> pi3 address is 192.168.1.130= and my main computer is 192.168.1.101<br>> <br>> <br>> In m= y wrapper.log I found the two following errors:<br>> <br>> Unable to = bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888<br>> Could not bind to some = of the interfaces specified for port 8888 :<br>> [192.168.1.101]<br>>= <br>> <br>> Any suggestions?<br>> _______________________________= ________________<br>> Support mailing list<br>> Support@freenetprojec= t.org<br>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support<br>> U= nsubscribe at<br>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf= o/support<br>> Or mailto:support-request-RdDMkVZAZeuJnvDnx1genB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org?subject=3Dun= subscribe<br><div><br></div><br>------------------------------<br><div><br>= </div>Message: 3<br>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:50:37 +0000<br>From: Stephen = Mollett <molletts-/[email protected]><br>To: [email protected]<br>Sub= ject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.<br>Message-ID: <b53= 59b83-795d-869c-ece7-464e787674fd-/[email protected]><br>Content-Type: text/plain= ; charset=3Dutf-8<br><div><br></div>Hi,<br><div><br></div>On 23/01/17 12:55= , neuman wrote:<br>> I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini= ...<br>> fproxy.allowedHosts=3D127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<= br>> fproxy.bindTo=3D127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>> fpr= oxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=3D127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1<br>>= ; <br>> pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.1= 68.1.101<br><div><br></div>You need to put 192.168.1.130 in the fproxy.bind= To line instead of<br>192.168.1.101. That line governs what addresses the p= roxy accepts<br>connections through; the others govern where the connection= s can come<br>from (so they're correct in listing your main computer's addr= ess).<br><div><br></div>Hope this helps,<br>Stephen<br><div><br></div><br>-= -----------------------------<br><div><br></div>Message: 4<br>Date: Mon, 23= Jan 2017 14:20:51 +0000<br>From: Steve Dougherty <steve-kVTqj8yhOEv2eFz/[email protected]&g= t;<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Newb= ie questions<br>Message-ID:<br> &n= bsp;<CAC+9PX58cV4Cw2n5EBYiwpAEs7yrELAeR=3DhK=3DYqFLUjBg4YYTA-JsoAwUIsXotQFR93xxRIaA@public.gmane.org= com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div>Th= e Tor comparison is easiest to answer because there's a FAQ entry:<br>https= ://freenetproject.org/help.html#tor<br><div><br></div>On Mon, Jan 23, 2017,= 6:14 AM Amuza <[email protected]> wrote:<br><div><br></div>><br>&g= t;<br>> On 22/01/17 19:01, Steve Dougherty wrote:<br>><br>> On 01/= 22/2017 12:27 PM, Amuza wrote:<br>><br>> Hello!<br>><br>> I hav= e never tried Freenet but I already have some questions:<br>><br>> Ho= w do nodes discover each other?<br>><br>> In opennet mode ("normal" o= r "low" network security) they connect to<br>> seed nodes (a list of whi= ch is included with the software) run by<br>> volunteers which provide t= hem with an initial set of possible<br>> connections, and during normal = operation performs path folding to<br>> maintain and improve its connect= ions. [0]<br>><br>> When not in opennet mode (and therefore in "darkn= et mode;" if both modes<br>> are in use it's "hybrid") connections must = be manually and mutually added.<br>><br>><br>> Can nodes within a = LAN connect to each other without any special<br>> configuration?<br>>= ;<br>> It depends on what you mean by special configuration. It does req= uire<br>> that the nodes' operators add one another as "friends" by trad= ing node<br>> references, but this is intended as routine configuration.= <br>><br>><br>> Do they need Internet access?<br>><br>> No, = but note that a completely isolated darknet would have no way to<br>> ac= cess the content available through the public opennet network. This<br>>= includes updates to the software. As long as one member of the darknet<br>= > is also connected to opennet this will not be the case. (Though<br>>= ; performance will be slow.)<br>><br>><br>> Would nodes keep autom= atically connecting when they are in a LAN where<br>> some days there is= no Internet access?<br>><br>> Yes.<br>><br>><br>> Does Free= net have any kind of real asynchronous messaging?<br>><br>> Yes, and = it depends what you mean.<br>><br>><br>> I mean, something like th= is:<br>> Alice is online and sends a message which has Caroline (her Fre= enet<br>> friend) as the recipient, but Caroline is offline. Fortunately= Barbara (who<br>> is a common Freenet friend of both Alice and Caroline= ) is online. Then<br>> Alice goes offline. Then Caroline goes online and= receives Alice's message.<br>> Barbara (or other common online Freenet = friend) automatically forwarded the<br>> message without being able to r= ead it.<br>><br>> If so, how does it work?<br>><br>> Darknet pe= ers can send direct messages by clicking on the peer's name on<br>> the = friends page. If the peers are not both online and connected the<br>> me= ssage will be deferred until they are. The user interface for this is<br>&g= t; very poor but it does function.<br>><br>> Otherwise, messaging too= ls like FLIP, Freemail, or Sone can do that.<br>> [1][2][3] They work by= inserting and fetching the messages as files.<br>><br>><br>><br>&= gt; I guess some of those three messaging tools do somehow the kind of<br>&= gt; asynchronous messaging I meant. Do they?<br>><br>> Thank you!!<br= >><br>> Yep. :) Hope this helps.<br>><br>> - Steve<br>><br>&= gt;<br>><br>> It does! Great explanations! As soon as I have a while = I will try Freenet.<br>><br>> Let me ask another one, this one is mor= e difficult:<br>><br>> In the case you, or anyone in this list, know = a bit about other<br>> more-or-less similar decentralized tools like Ret= roshare, Zeronet, Tox,<br>> IPFS, etc, could you very briefly compare th= em to Freenet and easily say<br>> some advantage or disadvantage of some= of those tools over Freenet?<br>><br>> Thanks again.<br>><br>>= [0] https://wiki.freenetproject.org/Opennet<br>> [1]<br>> USK@pGQPA-= 9PcFiE3A2tCuCjacK165UaX07AQYw98iDQrNA,8gwQ67ytBNR03hNj7JU~ceeew22HVq6G50dcE= eMcgks,AQACAAE/flip/12/<br>> [2] http://freesocial.draketo.de/freemail_e= n.html<br>> [3]<br>> USK@nwa8lHa271k2QvJ8aa0Ov7IHAV-DFOCFgmDt3X6BpCI,= DuQSUZiI~agF8c-6tjsFFGuZ8eICrzWCILB60nT8KKo,AQACAAE/sone/75/<br>><br>>= ;<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<b= r>> Support mailing [email protected]://news.gmane.org/= gmane.network.freenet.support<br>> Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproj= ect.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support<br>> Or mailto:support-request@= freenetproject.org?subject=3Dunsubscribe <support-request@freenetproject= .org?subject=3Dunsubscribe><br>><br>> ____________________________= ___________________<br>> Support mailing list<br>> Support@freenetpro= ject.org<br>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support<br>>= ; Unsubscribe at<br>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/list= info/support<br>> Or mailto:support-request-RdDMkVZAZeuJnvDnx1genB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org?subject= =3Dunsubscribe<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attach= ment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/s= upport/attachments/20170123/33f4e4c9/attachment.html><br><div><br></div>= ------------------------------<br><div><br></div>Subject: Digest Footer<br>= <div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>Support m= ailing list<br>[email protected]<br>https://emu.freenetproject.org= /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support<br><div><br></div>-----------------------= -------<br><div><br></div>End of Support Digest, Vol 83, Issue 5<br>*******= *******************************<br></div></body></html> ------=_Part_86290809_253485330.1485197054433-- --===============0788707079== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KU3VwcG9ydCBt YWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKU3VwcG9ydEBmcmVlbmV0cHJvamVjdC5vcmcKaHR0cDovL25ld3MuZ21hbmUu b3JnL2dtYW5lLm5ldHdvcmsuZnJlZW5ldC5zdXBwb3J0ClVuc3Vic2NyaWJlIGF0IGh0dHA6Ly9l bXUuZnJlZW5ldHByb2plY3Qub3JnL2NnaS1iaW4vbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9zdXBwb3J0Ck9y IG1haWx0bzpzdXBwb3J0LXJlcXVlc3RAZnJlZW5ldHByb2plY3Qub3JnP3N1YmplY3Q9dW5zdWJz Y3JpYmU= --===============0788707079==--