[gui-dev] Re: [trans] Estonian Translation

Justin Schmidt <[email protected]> Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:24:49 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.network.gnutella.limewire.gui.devel
Message-ID <42EC1A51.1050204__6658.95905481211$1122769647$gmane$org@limewire.com>
Given that the internationalization efforts are going so well, and LW=20
4.9 lockdown will be easing soon, I was hoping to start some=20
brainstorming for improving two potential issues with our current=20
'change language' workflow:
  (1)  There's a nasty scaling problem if there are too many languages=20
in the menu.
  (2)  If people accidentally choose a language they cannot understand,=20
frequently they don't know how to find their language again.

I know Philippe was at least considering working on a solution to (1)=20
using a language chooser window.  This seems like it has a lot of potenti=
al.

A potential solution to (2) is to use a flag icon for the 'Change=20
Language' menu item (and also each of the translations in the sub-menu,=20
if necessary).  This additional visual hinting should allow someone=20
scanning through the top-level menus to find their language again. =20
Another option is to do something with the status bar, perhaps only for=20
non-English users.

Any better ideas out there?  =3D)

Justin



Philippe Verdy wrote:

> You're right, Estonian effectively uses the Baltic Rim Latin set, not=20
> the Central or Western European Latin sets.
> I saw this but did not know how to correct it. Anyway I commited it=20
> because the file I had received was UTF-8 encoded (probably by someone=20
> that did not edit it).
>
> Note: this word appears TWICE in the bundle. There are occuren ces as=20
> well of "re=C3=BEiimist" (really "re=C5=BEiimist"):
>
> STATISTICS_CONNECTION_WAKING_UP_TIP=3DLimeWire =C3=A4rkab =C3=BCles mag=
amise=20
> re=C5=BEiimist.
>
> Note: there are TWO charsets in ISO8859 for Baltic Rim: ISO-8859-4=20
> (aka Latin4) and the recent ISO-8859-13 (aka Latin7):
> - If the file was effectively encoded with Latin4, the original=20
> character would have been a U WITH MACRON.
> - If the file was effectively encoded with Latin8, it is a Z WITH CARON.
>
> The section option is more probable given the common origin of these=20
> words where a consonnant is evident here.
>
> I have corrected these 3. Thanks for pointing the solution...
>
> Philippe.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kapsi" <[email protected]>
> To: "Philippe Verdy" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [trans] Estonian Translation
>
>
>> Oh, cool. My fault was to look at the translate page rather than lib
>> repository. :) Yes it is the same version except:
>>
>> The original submission is in ISO Latin 7/Baltic Rim! Not a big deal
>> except for 'genre' if you open it in latin 1 (I made the same
>> mistake). See attachment (upper is current and wrong, bottom how it
>> should be).
>>
>>
>
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>
> And Vaade is a better translation for View than Vaata. The latter is
> more like...
>
> Look, a pink elephant
> Vaata, =C3=BCks roosa elevant
>
> ... and the former...
>
> What a nice view
> Illus vaade
>
> Vaata =3D Watch, See, Look, Vide
> Vaade =3D View
>
> Cheers
>  Roger
>
> On Jul 30, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote:
>
>> Isn't that the version I have uploaded already and validated in the
>> repository? I have also noted the error ("V" mnemonic instead of
>> "Vaade" keyword) and had corrected it myself...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kapsi" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 5:34 PM
>> Subject: [trans] Estonian Translation
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> while we're on it... Margus Martsepp sent this (almost 100%) to
>>> [email protected] and it slipped maybe through your radar.
>>>
>>> The file is encoded in ISO Latin 7/Baltic Rim. I've converted it to
>>> UTF-8 (the zip file) and fixed the following message:
>>>
>>> #### MENU_VIEW_TITLE=3DView
>>> MENU_VIEW_TITLE=3DV
>>>   to
>>> MENU_VIEW_TITLE=3DVaade
>>>
>>> I tried to contact him but got no reply. :/
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>  Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Margus Martsepp" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: July 23, 2005 4:16:45 PM GMT+02:00
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [trans] Translation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   This is the translation to estonian.
>>>>   I wanted to mention that estonian is more content-rich then
>>>> english and tue that some text may not fit in some buttons.
>>>>   If there is enything else, let me know by sending a email.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>> ITV - Sinu lemmiksaated internetis!
>>>> http://www.itv.ee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> translate mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://www.limewire.org/mailman/listinfo/translate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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