RE: Creation of a new translation

"Philippe Verdy" <[email protected]> Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:45:10 +0200
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Actually, Occitan is the eight minority language in France.

The second one is English (about 26% or 27% of residents in France can =
now
speak English at least as a secondary language due to their origins or
because they learn it at school and exposition to English is quite =
high).
Those that speak English as their primary native language are about 4 to =
6%.

It is followed, in order, by:
Auvergnat (2.2%), Italian (1.7%), Portuguese (1.2%), Breton (0.8%), =
Corsican
(0.6%); Occitan (including Proven=E7al) and Gascon represent each 0.4%, =
and
Catalan 0.2%; Dutch and Basque both have around 0.1%.

I have no digits about Alsatian (a regional variant of Alemanic, with =
the
family of High German languages). But if you live in Alsace, you'll be =
much
more exposed to it than to Breton.

I have no figure about Arabic and Berber, but they must also come before
Occitan...

If you take only the semi-official regional languages of France, then
Occitan is the 4th one, representing about 2600 native persons speaking
Occitan as their primary language (decreasing fast). Those that speak it
only as a secondary language are much more frequent and may reach more =
than
1 million, but I have very serious doubts about your figure of 2 =
millions
(and they speak French as the primary language, because it is mandatory =
at
school and in most exams).

Sources: The Ethnologue Report, the organisation of the European Union =
in
charge of minory languages of Europe.

On the opposite, there are very important languages, really spoken by
millions of people as their native primary language (and often the only
language they know), which are still not correctly covered in LimeWire; =
the
order of decreasing importance of languages are (pointed by arrows):

* Simplified Chinese (in China and Singapore), English, Spanish, Arabic,

=3D> Bengali, Hindi (India),

* Russian, Japanese, French, German,

=3D> Javanese, Korean, Tamil (India), Telugu (India), Marathi (India),
Vietnamese, Lahnda, Urdu (Arabic script) (India and Pakistan),

* Italian,

=3D> Tagalog (distinct from Filipino), Turkish, Filipino/Pilipino (a =
creole of
Tagalog, Portuguese, and English), Gujarati (India),

* Traditional Chinese (Cantonese, Yue, ...) (in South China, HK, Macao,
Taiwan), Polish,

=3D> Persian/Farsi (in Iran), Malalayam (in India), Kannada (in India),
Burmese (in Myanmar), Oryia (in India), Ukrainian, Malaysian, Pashto (in
Pakistan and Afghanistan), Punjabi (written with Gurmukhi script), =
Sundanese
(in Indonesia), Bohjpuri (India), Maithili (India), Hausa =
(Latin-written),
Azerbaijani (Arabic-written), Romanian, Indonesian,

* Dutch,

=3D> Awadhi,

* Central Thai (standard),

=3D> Cebuano, Yoruba, Sindhi (Arabic-written, India), Igbo, Oromo, =
Nepali,
Amharic, Uzbek (Cyrilli-written), Northeastern Thai, Assamese, Madurese,
Sinhalese, Haryanvi (India),

* Hungarian,

=3D> Khmer, Chhattisgarhi, Somali, Zulu,

* Modern Greek,

=3D> Deccan, Shona, Kazakh, Belarusian, Kurdish (latin-written),

* Serbian (Cyrillic-written), Czech,

=3D> Malagasy...

(All other languages have less than 10 millions speakers)
Sources: Ethnologue Reports, UNICEF, Unicode.org, ISO

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De=A0: [email protected] [mailto:translate-
> [email protected]] De la part de Claude BARDE
> Envoy=E9=A0: mercredi 6 juin 2007 17:14
> =C0=A0: [email protected]
> Objet=A0: [trans] Creation of a new translation
>=20
> Hello !
> My name is Claude Barde, I'm a 22-years-old French man living in South
> France. I take part in a translation group for my language called
> "occitan". This the second minority language in France (with breton,
> basque, catalan for example), spoken by approximately 1 million of =
people
> and understood by 2 millions. This a roman language which was very =
used
> during the Middle Age. Now we are trying to promote our language so =
that
> the people want to learn it and speak it, and that's why we need to
> translate a lot of useful logicials to make the language more alive. I
> would like to translate Limewire (me or someone else from our group =
that
> you can find on http://www.totenoc.org/index.php), because a lot of =
people
> use this software, and using it in occitan would be better !
> Tell me how can we make it ?



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