Re: G3C announces: GML, Gopher and XHTML

>freedom of speech isn’t without freedom of consequence

y'all are basically anger vending machines at this point,  20h pops a bad
boy token into the slot and angry responses come out.

the only time this list is active when someone is being outraged about
something Christoph said.



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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:40 PM Paula Ash <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Apr 2, 2021, at 10:45 PM, barana . <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Seriously, you all behave like you havent seen an april fools day
> joke.(afore mentioned humour)
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> *From:* John Goerzen <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 3 April 2021 11:44 AM
> *To:* Ivan J. <parazyd-/[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Chris Brannon <chris-zYV+vkQTyN5VVL4EKv/[email protected]>;
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: G3C announces: GML, Gopher and XHTML
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> On Fri, Apr 02 2021, Ivan J. wrote:
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> > Sad to say, you also seem to be ignoring all the actual effort
> > Bitreich is doing to help and improve Gopher and its adoption.
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> Spreading racism helps nothing and nobody.  It has no place in
> this community.
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> Writing Gopher patches to software is great, but that doesn't mean
> that racism and sexism must accompany it.
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> I want to assure everyone, lurkers and regular participants, that
> Christoph Lohmann does not speak for this community, that racism
> has no place in this or any other Open Source community, and that
> you are not alone in your feeling of revulsion at it.
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> I have no respect for racists and no desire to work with people
> that seek to use technical lists to spread racism, regardless of
> what their Free Software activities are.  Free Software is about
> treating people ethically and making the world a better place, and
> racism and sexism are antithetical to these aims.
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> - John
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> 1.  Thanks John.  And that’s the spirit of free software.  Collaboration
> shouldn’t care about who or what you are.  It’s a social activity.  And
> while I don’t contribute much outside of occasionally maintaining a small
> Gopher hole on SDF and browsing Floodgap, it’s still nostalgic for me.
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> 2.  Barana:  He can say whatever he darn well pleases on his own servers.
> But subjugating an unwilling audience to “humor” like this after his
> previous thread is just tone deaf.  A good comic knows how to read the room.
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> Also,  freedom of speech isn’t without freedom of consequence, after all.
> This was his consequence.  I was just providing an explanation why some
> people in some circles might be sensitive towards the topic.  Heck, if I
> wanted to be truly mad about it, I would be mad at the male-oriented
> metadata in this “joke”.  But, as I may be one of the few women here, it’s
> just a part of where I am.
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> 3.  Chris Brannon:  Thanks.  Yeah, I’ve been here awhile but don’t say
> much.  And old protocols (and systems) have been a lifelong interest of
> mine.  :) I don’t pay too much to Bitreich but he seems...a little
> different.  But, it takes all kinds of people to make a community.
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