Re: proposed changes to network policy

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 01:19:22AM +1100, Tim Hicks wrote:
> Okay well, I have zero experience in this sort of thing, but it strikes me
> that if the biggest cause of people not voting is forgetting to do so while
> waiting for others to vote/talk about it, maybe a set time limit on both
> discussion and voting could help. Say 5 days for the discussion to occur,
> then send out an "ok you should start voting now" message, and give people
> two days to cast their votes or something.

We already do have a time limit on the conclusion of all votes yet
somehow it is still possible for admins to fail to vote.

The current policies do call for a period of discussion and then a
period of voting.  Perhaps it is time we formalised this and always
had a RFC period and a CFV period, as mentioned by Phil Kern.

> As for admins who fail to vote: existing policy says: "Servers that persist
> in not voting WILL FACE A DELINK NO MATTER HOW MANY USERS THEY HAVE ON THEM
> OR WHO RUNS THEM. If you are not willing to help run the network, you do not
> belong here." It's a fair stretch to call "forgetting to vote" being
> "unwilling to help run the network";

Those who have forgotten may disagree ;)

> nevertheless perhaps an actual defined
> limit on failing-to-votes (say 2 in a 6-12 month period?) before a mandatory
> delink would encourage admins enough to make the effort all the time.

Well right now "WILL FACE A DELINK" actually means "may face a
delink vote"; I would be uncomfortable with some sort of mandatory
delinking of servers, but conversely it's no good if an admin can
fail to vote repeatedly and then continually have any delink vote
fail to get support from the other admins.

In the past we have come to other arrangements about voting for
admins who say they don't have time, e.g. the complete handing over
of the IRC server to someone else.

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