Re: Presence problem in large MUC rooms.

Hi,

I think some people worked on a new MUC spec. Maybe we can ask them to put the proposal online.

Regards

On Fri, Jan 30, 2026, at 11:29, Goffi wrote:
> Le vendredi 30 janvier 2026, 11:10:36 heure normale d’Europe centrale Stephen 
> Paul Weber a écrit :
>> Somebody signing messages as Goffi wrote:
>> >Le vendredi 30 janvier 2026, 10:52:31 heure normale d’Europe centrale 
> Stephen Paul Weber a écrit :
>> >> >We don't have to be actively in the room. What we want when we are in a
>> >> >large room, is to be able to check it when we want, and be notified when 
> we
>> >> >are mentioned.
>> >>
>> >> So you want to have the option to not only not get presence live, but 
> also
>> >> not get live messages?
>> >
>> >??? Why we would not have the live messages? If the client is in the room, 
> it's an "active" join, and it's working as usual.
>> 
>> Yes but your whole proposal is about adding this "passive" join which I 
>> understood to not want live messages, correct?
>
> Yes, for rooms where the client is not actively displaying the chat, and you 
> get notifications when you are mentioned (or we can add another option to get 
> notification for every message, we still skip <presence> in this case).
>
> In short the room automatically get from "active" to "passive" when the client 
> is not actively showing it and vice versa.
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