Re: Reinstating XHTML-IM (XEP-0071)

Martin <[email protected]> Sun, 15 Mar 2026 13:53:29 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.network.jabber.standards-jig
Message-ID <87ikax8ahy.fsf@debian>
Hi Schimon, hi list,

On 2026-03-15 03:27, Schimon Jehudah via Standards wrote:
> I am not an XSF member, yet I am interested to reinstate XHTML-IM.
>
> I have useful ideas that would be possible with XHTML-IM.

I used to be in favour of XHTML-IM, too, but now I'm not convinced
anymore myself. Let's talk about use cases first. I see:

1. Blogging with rich structure, like sections/subsections and tables.
   If I'm not mistaken, XHTML-IM only has poor support for the former
   (H1..H6 instead of "real" sections like e.g. DocBook/XML) and no
   support for the latter.

2. Chatting or blogging with enriched syntax, like bold/italic, or
   clickable links.

For the former, XHTML-IM as it is now, is not sufficient, IMHO. Both
XEP-0277: Microblogging over XMPP and XEP-0472: Pubsub Social Feed refer
to Atom and XHTML, but unfortunately recommend the XHTML-IM subset.

For the latter, we have XEP-0393: Message Styling and XEP-0394: Message
Markup. Which are missing clickable links, but that could be added or we
rely on XEP-0511: Link Metadata?

Cheers
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