Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Explicit Mentions

Stephen Paul Weber <[email protected]> Wed, 1 Apr 2026 13:46:59 -0500

Newsgroups	gmane.network.jabber.standards-jig
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Somebody claiming to be Snit Guckfung via Standards wrote:
>> A message sent by the room directly to the used, probably and
>> "headline". With a link to the room and message ID. I don't know
>> about XEP-0224, I've not implemented it so far and Philipp Hörist
>> explicitly asked to not use it in a previous message in this thread.
>> XEP-0372 could do the job, but it was discussed yesterday at the
>> council meeting that maybe your specification and XEP-0372 could be
>> merged somehow?
>
>I'm on the fence regarding XEP-0224 as well. It was suggested by someone
>else in the thread for notifications, but then it was also argued
>against. Its also been brought up to be used for room mentions, which
>is an entirely different use-case. Sounds like no one knows what
>XEP-0224 is supposed to be in the context of MUCs, which is worrying...

XEP-0224 is pretty clear that the purpose is to send a message which cases 
more of an attention-grabbing alert than the same message would otherwise 
have received, and that how to get the user's attention is up to the 
implementation. So if a client gets a message with this tag it should alert 
the user in some way. In a MUC usually a message does not notify the user at 
all, so any notification at all would be more than usual. That is why it is 
appropriate for "room mentions", since those don't mention anything but 
rather indicate that a messge should alert users.

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