Re: Presence 404

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Thanks for the quick response.

I am not sure of the dates, but that is probably it.

Literally everyone on my contact list is on gmail or a Google hosted
domain, so based on what you are saying, my options are few and clear.

Thanks,
Rusty
On May 20, 2014 11:21 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 5/20/14, 11:20 AM, Rusty Burchfield wrote:
>
>> I have been using Jabber.org for a while, but once every few months all
>> my contacts are listed as 404: Remote server not found. Looking at the
>> XMPP console, this is the presence the server is sending me.
>>
>
> Did that happen, perhaps, on January 4, February 22, March 22, April 19,
> and yesterday (continuing into today)?
>
>  Most of these contacts are on gmail or Google hosted domains. Any idea
>> why this happens?  The service is completely unusable while this is
>> going on.
>>
>
> We have been testing full encryption of communications across the XMPP
> network (which means that communications from jabber.org to other XMPP
> servers are encrypted). Unfortunately, to date Google has not been
> participating in those tests and they do not support encryption of data to
> their servers from other XMPP servers such as jabber.org. As a result, on
> those test days no one could send IM or presence to users of Google Talk or
> domains hosted on Google apps.
>
> Yesterday, along with many other services on the XMPP network, we (the
> jabber.org admins) made a permanent switch to requiring encryption. Until
> and unless Google starts to support a higher level of security, you will be
> unable to communicate with anyone at Google Talk or domains hosted on
> Google apps.
>
> This is an unfortunate side effect of our trying to offer improved
> security to our users. If you really need to chat with people on Google,
> you will need to use a Google account for the time being.
>
> And no, we're not happy about this either.
>
> Peter
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the quick response.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I am not sure of the dates, but that is probably it.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Literally everyone on my contact list is on gmail or a Googl=
e hosted domain, so based on what you are saying, my options are few and cl=
ear.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br>
Rusty</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 20, 2014 11:21 AM, &quot;Peter Saint-Andr=
e&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 5/20/14, 11:20 AM, Rusty Burchfield wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I have been using Jabber.org for a while, but once every few months all<br>
my contacts are listed as 404: Remote server not found. Looking at the<br>
XMPP console, this is the presence the server is sending me.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Did that happen, perhaps, on January 4, February 22, March 22, April 19, an=
d yesterday (continuing into today)?<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Most of these contacts are on gmail or Google hosted domains. Any idea<br>
why this happens? =C2=A0The service is completely unusable while this is<br=
>
going on.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
We have been testing full encryption of communications across the XMPP netw=
ork (which means that communications from <a href=3D"http://jabber.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">jabber.org</a> to other XMPP servers are encrypted). Unfortu=
nately, to date Google has not been participating in those tests and they d=
o not support encryption of data to their servers from other XMPP servers s=
uch as <a href=3D"http://jabber.org" target=3D"_blank">jabber.org</a>. As a=
 result, on those test days no one could send IM or presence to users of Go=
ogle Talk or domains hosted on Google apps.<br>

<br>
Yesterday, along with many other services on the XMPP network, we (the <a h=
ref=3D"http://jabber.org" target=3D"_blank">jabber.org</a> admins) made a p=
ermanent switch to requiring encryption. Until and unless Google starts to =
support a higher level of security, you will be unable to communicate with =
anyone at Google Talk or domains hosted on Google apps.<br>

<br>
This is an unfortunate side effect of our trying to offer improved security=
 to our users. If you really need to chat with people on Google, you will n=
eed to use a Google account for the time being.<br>
<br>
And no, we&#39;re not happy about this either.<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
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