Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Require voting in English

Jonah Aragon <[email protected]> Tue, 7 Aug 2018 23:13:11 -0500
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(I’m going to assume you meant your reply in response to mine, Kevin)

I disagree. It’s a standard practice to standardize things like this, and OpenNIC is objectively a predominately English speaking community. Maybe if we were consistently speaking in multiple languages here you might have a point, but currently if discussions or votes were happening in any language other than English on this mailing list, it would be a massive barrier to communication for the majority of our members, and would be a huge signal that the people doing so were being dishonest with us.

There are no situations where a discussion on this list is something that a community member does not “need to” understand. The discussions on this list are generally high priority organizational matters.

Jonah

> On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:33 PM, kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, no.  Don't think that's a really good assertion on an
> international collaboration to make English some formal language of
> openNIC.  I really don't mind if conversations go on on this list in
> any language one so chooses.  Not exactly sure why that is so
> important.  If I don't understand, then either I don't need to, or
> maybe I should take some time to learn another language.
> 
> Anyhow, the guys were obviously spoiling their ballots.
> 
> Also, regarding the idea of not allowing "free form" ballots.  As a
> voter, it is completely up to a voter to spoil a ballot.  That is
> certainly one of the "rights" the democratic systems are supposed to
> uphold. How they spoil the ballot is up to them, not a check box that
> says "spoil".
> 
> I think there's way too much nudging of the "decomocracy" of openNIC to
> corral members to a very, very small box.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Tue, 2018-08-07 at 14:50 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A number of individuals are voting on proposals in other languages
>> (Austrian? German?). Not everyone can speak these languages, and I've
>> never seen languages other than English spoken on the list. I don't
>> know how to process these votes, though I'm hoping someone else can
>> before time runs out (or until someone translates them for Jonah and
>> I). But in the future, unless the demographics in this shift into
>> speakers of another language, who can reverse saide policy, we should
>> require voting in English, with votes in other languages considered
>> invalid.
>> 
>> What do you think?
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> -Dan Q
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