Re: [opennic-discuss] Vote to keep or drop peering with NameCoin

Rouben <[email protected]> Fri, 28 Jun 2019 20:55:25 -0400
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I=E2=80=99m not surprised at all... from my experience most network admins =
whose
networks get compromised usually are not at all responsive to abuse
complaints... some even have fake/placeholder abuse contact info... so like
I said, I am not at all surprised that orgs like Spamhaus blacklist first
and =E2=80=9Cask questions=E2=80=9D later (or not at all).

Rouben

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 17:56 Jeff Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 06/28/2019 02:36 PM, Brian Greer wrote:
> > That communication happened at all should be seen as a positive.
> >
>
> Just to clarify... Spamhaus did not reach out to opennic to discuss the
> problem, they just started blacklisting our mail servers without
> warning.  Instead, I actually dug around their site and found a contact
> address to try and get a conversation going with them.  That is where I
> received most of the info about the situation, and then worked with them
> to develop the API so our blacklist content could be generated.  Quite
> frankly I still find it really shitty that they knew full well that
> opennic was caught in the middle, and they didn't even bother to try and
> talk to us about it.
>
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not surprised at all... from my experien=
ce most network admins whose networks get compromised usually are not at al=
l responsive to abuse complaints... some even have fake/placeholder abuse c=
ontact info... so like I said, I am not at all surprised that orgs like Spa=
mhaus blacklist first and =E2=80=9Cask questions=E2=80=9D later (or not at =
all).</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Rouben</div>=
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 17:56 Jeff Taylor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shdwdrgn@sou=
rpuss.net">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">On 06/28/2019 02:36 PM, Brian Greer wrote:<br>
&gt; That communication happened at all should be seen as a positive.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Just to clarify... Spamhaus did not reach out to opennic to discuss the <br>
problem, they just started blacklisting our mail servers without <br>
warning.=C2=A0 Instead, I actually dug around their site and found a contac=
t <br>
address to try and get a conversation going with them.=C2=A0 That is where =
I <br>
received most of the info about the situation, and then worked with them <b=
r>
to develop the API so our blacklist content could be generated.=C2=A0 Quite=
 <br>
frankly I still find it really shitty that they knew full well that <br>
opennic was caught in the middle, and they didn&#39;t even bother to try an=
d <br>
talk to us about it.<br>
<br>
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