Re: Off topic - personal problem in VT

1000' of 62.5mm multi-mode, direct-burial, armored fiber can be had for 
around $800, and that has 6 duplex strands inside.   You could probably 
get a custom cable shop to make you a 160m (525') duplex armored cable 
with SC connectors on both ends for around $300.   Wait for spring, rent 
a Ditch Witch, and bury it directly in the ground.

Then just get some media converters, or even a little switch with a 
fiber port, ala http://www.fiberdyne.com/products/vs-115f.html

You can run 100BaseFX over that distance, EZ.  Then you and your 
neighbor will have 1000Mbps, full-duplex between the houses.

No conduit.  No remote power.  No chance it won't work.  If you want to 
get spendy, you can run GigE.

jim

Casey Halverson wrote:
> People do not encourage you because trees produce mixed results.  What
> you are asking is nearly impossible..and nobody wants to give you their
> word that it will work.
> 
> There has been limited success in shooting through forested areas.  500
> feet shouldn't be that much of a problem.  You will probably have to use
> high gain antennas (24dBi parabolics) and perhaps up to 200mW of input
> power from a Senao/Engenius/SMC Long Range....
> 
> Also, if you can get a tower at both ends above the tree line, or at
> least above most of it, your chances of success will increase.
> 
> If you can get a hold of some 900MHz gear, you may have better luck.
> 
> You could also run outdoor cat5 (about 250') from each location, and
> plug them into a hub inside a waterproof container, and power the hub
> off of a couple pairs of the cat 5.  You could use conduit (smarter way)
> or just drape it along the ground...burry it..depends on how long you
> want it to last and how much legal liability you want :)
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 	From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Mayor
> 	Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:44 AM
> 	To: [email protected]
> 	Subject: Off topic - personal problem in VT
> 	
> 	
> 	I hope that you won't think too unkindly of me for interrupting
> this mailing list
> 	
> 	We live in the boonies of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom and are
> trying to stay in touch with the world without going under financially.
> 
> 	
> 	Recently we invested in satellite internet access, mainly
> because of our  lousy rural phone lines, but also we believed that we
> could save money.  The latter included eliminating out second phone line
> AND networking with our neighbor.  These friends live in our cabin which
> is about 500' as the crow flies from our house.  Unfortunately, the
> crows would have to fly over many trees.
> 	
> 	Our initial concept was just to provide them with a wireless PCI
> card and that would be it.  We have since discovered that trees hinder
> the signal while wood floors apparently do not.  We have talked to
> several vendors who claim great distances for their wireless
> communications, but none will encourage us when we mention trees, even
> with "high" gain external antennas.
> 	
> 	We next considered simple hard-wiring until we were told that
> 300' is the practical limitation for hardwiring without repeaters.  We
> have not totally discounted fiber-optics, but no one seems to be able to
> help us and we suspect the cost will be high.  We have seem the many
> clever antennas that are floating around the internet, but when
> mentioned, the words "line of sight" always pop up.  One guy put it,
> "Leaves really attenuate the signal."  Actually we don't have so many
> "leaves" as needles, but I trust the attenuation difference is
> negligible.
> 	
> 	So, my question is this: Is there any hope for us to set up a
> inexpensive (wireless or any kind of) network between our two houses?
> If any have a positive answer to that, could you please advise us what
> approach to take..., short of cutting down the intervening trees, that
> is
> 	
> 	Incidentally, if there is a potential for wireless to work with
> some high-gain directional antenna, is there any (free?) software
> available that will help us to fine tune the alignment of the antennae
> once we have constructed them?
> 	
> 	Thank you very much.
> 	
> 	Peace.
> 	
> 	Jim Mayor and family and friends 
> 	<[email protected]>
> 	952 Hartwell Pond Road
> 	Barton, VT 05822-9553
> 	(802) 755-6307 
> 
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