Re: Off topic - personal problem in VT

"Robert Currey" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.seattle.general
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I've been watching this thread for a while since I have a similar
circumstance (2 buildings with LOS pseudo blocked by trees, and >500 feet
apart).

Right now, I got the best LOS I could and use a pair of "cantennas" to get a
decent wireless link. It is at the "tolerable" level of performance.

I'm now looking to go ahead and bury fiber and use it (probably with a pair
of linksys EF-3124 + fiber expansion cards). total equipment cost should be
around $500, and will provide a killer link (now and for the future).

Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Josephson" <[email protected]>
To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <[email protected]>;
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Off topic - personal problem in VT


>
>
> Jim Mayor wrote:
>
> > Our initial concept was just to provide them with a wireless PCI card
> > and that would be it. We have since discovered that trees hinder the
> > signal while wood floors apparently do not. We have talked to several
> > vendors who claim great distances for their wireless communications,
> > but /none/ will encourage us when we mention trees, even with “high”
> > gain external antennas.
>
> The other comments you have received pretty much cover it. You may get
> lots of gain from antennas, but going through pine needles can result in
> a loss of 10 dB per *foot* or more.
>
> > We next considered simple hard-wiring until we were told that 300' is
> > the practical limitation for hardwiring without repeaters. We have not
> > totally discounted fiber-optics, but no one seems to be able to help
> > us and we suspect the cost will be high. We have seem the many clever
> > antennas that are floating around the internet, but when mentioned,
> > the words “line of sight” always pop up. One guy put it, “Leaves
> > really attenuate the signal.” Actually we don’t have so many “leaves”
> > as needles, but I trust the attenuation difference is negligible.
>
> 300 feet is certainly not the limit. Particularly if you are running
> 10base-T (rather than 100BT) Ethernet in an electrically quiet location
> (like inside a piece of PVC garden pipe that you've buried in the
> ground) it should be fine. I would recommend that you try this first,
> with good quality Cat5E cable. It will probably work. If it doesn't,
> there are VDSL-type Ethernet extenders that run 10 Mbps 5,000 feet or
> more on a single pair, and you could add these on to the cable you
> installed. If you are only extending a Direcway connection and not doing
> high speed streaming between your two houses, an SDSL-type Ethernet
> extender (www.netsys-direct.com for instance) will work.
>
> How is the Direcway working for you? What sort of upload and download
> speeds do you actually get?
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