Re: Is Low-Cost Wi-Fi Un-American?

Matt Westervelt <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.seattle.general
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So you're saying that the government should guarantee that companies can 
make a profit regardless of the flaky business models that they're 
applying?   I doubt that this was in anyway agreed upon in the spectrum 
licensing process.

I don't think it's the government's fault that these auctions got bid up 
so far. 

The shareholders of these corporations should take their boards to 
task.    Big gamble, lots of risk, lousy payoff,

-matt

The government's goals are to serve it's people.

The corporations goals are to serve it's shareholders.

I suppose at times, these overlap, but that's not always the case.



[email protected] wrote:

>Carriers who paid billions to the U.S. (and other) government(s) (therefore,
>us, the citizens) for use of licensed spectrum think that they should get
>what they paid for: use of the spectrum and right to charge for services and
>make a profit.  The government did not ask the winning bidders to set up
>charities or throw their (shareholders) money down the sewer (although many
>managed to do that extremely well all on their own).   I can understand why
>some in the industry think it is unfair to sell them spectrum in an open
>bidding process and then afterwards change the rules to give away free
>spectrum that renders what they paid for at an arguably lower value.  This,
>some would argue, is tantamount to and abuse of the government's right to
>'eminent domain' - government taking of their property without fair and just
>compensation.  As a consumer we always want as much for our money, and as
>much of the other guys money as the government allows us to take or gives
>us.
>
>I think there are arguments that make sense on both sides of the 'free and
>open wireless's debate: if more spectrum and services are to be made free
>(or nearly so), then maybe the government should have made it clear they
>were going to change the rules and should now compensate license holders. in
>some cases.
>
>Or I guess it's OK if the government take your house and let the neighbors
>move in if they do it in the name of 'free and equal access'.
>
>On the other hand, the long term trend in wireless is for more universal
>standards, more morphing forms of wireless technologies such as cognitive
>radio and multi-band and wide frequency ICs and radios, more 'seamless
>roaming' and a general enabling of a more universal, open wireless
>environment.  The trend is to pry open the hold on spectrum and make it more
>available to both competitive forces and public access.  And with that there
>absolutely will be ongoing friction.
>
>Robert (Bob) Syputa, BSEE, MBA
>www.WiMAXPro.com
>[email protected]
>206-367-6931
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Casey Halverson" <[email protected]>
>To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:46 PM
>Subject: RE: Is Low-Cost Wi-Fi Un-American?
>
>
>That's funny..."Un-American".  I wouldn't go that far.
>
>There is no such thing as "free" internet.  Access costs money.
>
>You can hide it in taxes, create a money pool to pay for services, or
>donate it, but at the end of the day, someone has to pay the bill.
>
>Even non-internet community networks, like SeattleWireless, cost real
>money to operate.
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Mayor
>Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:26 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Is Low-Cost Wi-Fi Un-American?
>
>
>Is Low-Cost Wi-Fi Un-American?
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>by Timothy Karr, In These Times
>
>The telecom industry has a well-funded army who stand ready to
>paint community Internet as an affront to American innovation and free
>enterprise.
>
>Click here for article.
>http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2071/
><http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2071/>
>
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