Re: Spam?

> 1. Spammers are going to get your email address. Whether by harvesting it
> from a compromised Windows box's address book, watching email traffic over
> a peering point, scraping it from a web page or newsgroup posting or
> mailing list, buying it from someone else, whatever - if you use email,
> your address is going to get on a spammer's list. Getting upset about it
> does nothing to the spammer, wastes time and adds stress on the people you
> perhaps wrongly accuse of causing the problem, and raises your blood
> pressure.

"your suggestion doesn't work for me, so I say don't use it.
additionally I make judgments on your stress level based on the
suggestion"

> 2. If you're still thinking in terms of "protecting your address", go back
> and read 1. again. I'll wait.

"my opinions matter more than yours, based on my experience"

> 3. Even assuming for the sake of argument that 1 isn't a given - and
> speaking as a long-experienced mail administrator, I assure you it is -
> the address-hiding measures in MailMan are also ineffective. The only way
> it works at all is to restrict viewing the membership to the admin only -
> and even then, it only works for people who never post. The address
> munging inarchives is only partially effective; most people include their
> email address in their signature, and it doesn't hide that at all. But,
> more importantly, any recipient of list messages gets the addresses in
> clear text. And even small, low-traffic lists, if they're publically
> viewable/reachable, end up with one or more members who join and never
> post a single message, even lists where lurking makes no sense. What's
> more, I've seen a single address join every single public list on a server
> - even where lists are duplicates - within five minutes, and never post a
> single message to any of them. Is that supposed to be a compulsive lurker?

"because mailman is the only solution, and doesn't work, you are out of
luck anyway"

> Now, really, guys, the amount of time spent venting about this issue is
> considerably more than the issue is worth. Spam is worth fighting, but
> this particular battle was lost a long time ago. Save the energy for
> battles that are worth the effort.

"after my long winded explanation of why I am right, I don't want to
talk about it any longer"

and with that, i am unsubbing, some of the info was pretty decent on
this list, but if the prevailing attitudes on issues within peoples
controls are like the above, I want little to do with it.

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