RE: Wireless ISP in Nicaragua

"Dave & Liz Cabot" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.seattle.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
No, actually I'm dyslexic.  -72dbm.  Sorry.

All I know is what the software is telling me on the client side.  I am
using a directional antenna on the client side, but not parabolic.  The
software on the CPE is where I'm getting my numbers.

So, let me understand then.  I realize that the percentage number is just
some relative thing.  I shouldn't be getting 100% when I go from a 200mw to
a 2 watt setup.

And then you've introduced something to me that I didn't realize was a
problem.  I can overpower the radios?  I'll have to look up those terms,
because I'm not familiar with then.

I guess one problem is that I'm trying to create a single solution.  I'm
trying to cover an area that is some 20-30 miles wide - three small cities.
Bad way to do it?

BTW, where can I get the formulas that you used to determine what signal
strenghts I should get with varying antennas, wattage, and distance?

Thanks for the input!
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Casey Halverson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:11 PM
To: SeattleWireless Talk List
Subject: RE: Wireless ISP in Nicaragua

-27dBm???  Are you sure??  You'd need a 47dBi antenna for that kind of
signal.

If you put 100mW to a 14dBi antenna, stand 1.55 miles away (2.4km) and hold
a 24dBi parabolic in the other direction, you could only manage to get
-50dBm.

A 2 watt radio into a 14dBi antenna, standing 1.55 miles away, and holding a
24dBi parabolic in the other direction will give you -37dBm...which is way
too much signal and will overpower many radios (including the orinoco).

I think you got your testing mixed up.  ;)

Anyway, I would not suggest using 2 watts to shoot 2.4km.  That is way too
much power, and it will do more harm than good in forms of multipath, radio
overload, band splatter, etc.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave & Liz 
> Cabot
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Wireless ISP in Nicaragua
> 
> Sorry to butt in.  Just desperate for some help.  If you can point me 
> in the right direction, then I'll be on my way.
> 
> I've got an AP setup and I'm having a little trouble.  I'm trying to 
> move from a 200mw radio to a 100mw w/ a 2 watt amp (illegal in the 
> US), but I'm not getting the expected results.
> 
> What I've got is an Orinoco AP2000 with an Orinoco Classic Gold PC 
> card (100mw).  When I connect it to my 14 dbi sector antenna directly, 
> I get about 22-25% (-27db signal, -95db
> noise) signal from about 2.5 km away.
> When I put the 2 watt amp in between, I only get 47% (-47db signal, 
> -95db
> noise) from the same location.  I'm expecting a lot better.
> 
> In this configuration I've got the radio and antenna next to each 
> other, so there's very little cable.  I do plan on using 50' of 
> LMR400, but at this time that's not the problem.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Dave & Liz Cabot
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