Re: NLOS vendors in the greater Seattle area?

Todd,

The Tower Node will be running under FNPA 
<http://freenetworks.org/peering.html>

You can likely connect to it from Kirkland with a high gain antenna.

It will be running OLSR.

You can bake your own hardware, or buy a kit from Metrix 
<http://metrix.net/>, and configure it from the web interface. 

Let me know what else you think is lacking.  

Cheers.
-matt



Todd Boyle wrote:
> At 09:13 AM 1/18/2006, Casey Halverson wrote:
> >Don't we all wish we could get 100mbit+ NLOS?  :)
>
> To me the need to avoid endless rent-seeking behavior
> by the providers has become a personal cause.  So has
> the need to avoid the growing censorship or blocking of
> types of content, protocols, etc and the growing snooping
> and surveillance.     I really think the only solution in the
> long run is owner-operated and controlled hardware,
> because we have learned, whenever 3rd parties have a
> role in your information infrastructure the moral temptation
> to them is too great, and they start abusing the user,
> exploiting their position.  In fact a competition and laissez
> faire policy forces that outcome becaue whatever
> advantage they do NOT exploit, some guy like Bill Gates
> comes and exploits ALL of them to the maximum.
>
> Perhaps most of you have also come to this conclusion,
> the necessity of users to actually OWN the infrastructure.
> If you are in the suburbs, at some point doesn't it make sense
> to just lay our own 3rd fiber network?  We own our property
> in the suburbs.   Once people "get the hang of it", they
> might be willing to allow a Cooperative, to extend a
> segment across their back fence in exchange for access
> to whatever bandwidth is on that segment.
>
> What's lacking is the same thing thats lacking from any
> community wireless effort: agreement on a governance/usage
> model, because you need that in order to design the
> architecture..  i.e. what would be the range of identity or
> privacy deliverables from the network.  I think you need
> these for a community network regardless whether its
> wireless or fiber.    The only thing I see, around the country
> is people doing this within the municipal governments.
> That *may* be jumping from the frying pan into the fire,
> which they may live to regret someday.  The behavior of
> city hall is so notorious, historically that some people
> will categorically vote no on municipal owned broadband,
>
> If you're in King County Library district ask your library boards
> for content repositories to accompany the WiFi networks.
> There we can upload television programming since nobody
> has a PEG channel for our local content (except Seattle SCAN77)
>
> TOdd.
>
>
> At 09:13 AM 1/18/2006, Casey Halverson wrote:
>> Don't we all wish we could get 100mbit+ NLOS?  :)
>>
>> Non-line of sight technologies are not going to get you over a couple
>> megabits.  Even the Wimax forum admits that NLOS OFDM will maybe yield
>> 5mbps in the best of NLOS conditions.  Its not too hard to bounce off a
>> few points to obtain end-to-end LOS within this area.  However, this may
>> prove to be more expensive than a leased line.
>>
>> If you are looking for a short range, high bandwidth solution, you may
>> want to investigate metro ethernet or dark fiber within the Bellevue
>> area.  Its inexpensive and fast --- we do layer 2 point-to-point metro
>> ethernet between a couple buildings in downtown bellevue.
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam D. Morley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:01 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: NLOS vendors in the greater Seattle area?
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am interested in any vendors or consultants that have
>> > experience with high-bandwidth (50-100mbit+), low-latency
>> > (<20-30ms) NLOS products that can provide site-survey
>> > capabilities in the Bellevue area.  If you are (or know of)
>> > such a vendor, please drop me a mail off-list.  I have
>> > funding for the site-survey, so it's not a freebie.
>> >
>> > Effectively, I would like to find a group that has worked
>> > with these products before, and can evaluate the potential
>> > for a point-to-point link for linking two locations together
>> > with low-latency, high-bandwidth connections.  The distances
>> > are quite short --- just a few miles, but the challenges are
>> > ... numerous.  Preferably bridges, encryption, VLAN tunneling, etc.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > --
>> > adam
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