Re: Gregnews: US report proves EP lies

Seth Johnson <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:49:48 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.org.aful.patents
Organization Real Measures
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Russell McOrmond wrote:
> 
> PILCH Hartmut wrote:
> >
> > There seems to be an ambiguity in what terms like "technology" and
> > "engineering" mean.
> 
>    I also believe there is ambiguity of what "software" is as well.  Is
> it a technology itself, or is it a series of logical instructions used
> to control technology?


ALL WRITEWARE IS TECHNOLOGY.  AFTER ALL, ALL HARDWARE IS
TECHNOLOGY.


Paper, ink, pens and printers are technology.  If you invent a
new kind of ink, utensil or medium to write with, party on with
the patentability!

But what you say with writing is not patentable.  What the
writing *represents* is not patentable.

Software *represents* pure logical instructions.  Doesn't matter
what kind of technology you use to express it -- if it's being
used to give instructions to a logic processor, then those
instructions are not patentable.

Call a gate array software.  Call it hardware.  Call a new means
of providing instructions to a logic processor technology.  Go
ahead and patent that medium.  But if it's providing instructions
to a separate generic logic processor, it's expressing a computer
program, and that's not patentable.


Seth



>    I've had this conversation with friends who are in "software
> engineering" programs at University.  I suggest to them that since
> software is more a social science than a natural science, the field of
> software doesn't really belong in engineering at all.   Maybe some
> combination of a math-arts degree?  If you are a follower of Lessig like
> I am, you might believe that software is best analyzed as a form of
> privately authored law -- with law still being an arts degree.
> 
>    At least the "computer science" degree I took was more appropriately
> vague as to what type of science the software component was.
> 
>    I guess to me that we need to restore patent law, a form of economic
> public policy, to being analyzed as economic public policy.  The
> wordsmithing of extremists like Greg are largely irrelevant to the
> discussion of whether the existence of patents in the field of software
> helps or harms innovation.  Only economic studies are useful for this,
> and pretty much every study I have read suggests they are a chill and
> not an incentive for innovation.
> 
>    Other subject matter will be different, so comparing the entirely
> unrelated field of computer hardware to software to indicate something
> about patentability is just "social engineering".
> 
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