Re: Mixmaster work schedules

Zac Imboden <[email protected]> Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:26:30 -0700
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Thanks Pete.

Testing is very simple (for now).

BEFORE PUMPING FUEL INTO WASH TOTE: We test a sample of fuel before  
pumping it into the wash. Use the 3/27 test.

AFTER DRYING FUEL: We test another sample of fuel when it has dried.  
Use the 3/27 test AND do a heat test.

Here are the test procedures:

3/27 test
-------------------------
Mix 3 ml of oil with 27 ml of methanol. Use the yellow bulbed eye  
dropper to measure oil. Use the 100ml graduated cylinder to measure  
methanol. There is a glass jar labelled methanol with the other  
chemical supplies. Mix the two in a closed CLEAN jar. Swirl it for  
about a minute. As you swirl, if there are any droplets of FFAs, they  
will coalesce together into a liquid-like bead of pale yellow. If you  
see any sized bead, the fuel hasn't fully reacted. If you are in  
doubt, do a second test.


Heat test
---------------------------
use one of the metal cups to measure 20ml of fuel.
Weigh the cup with fuel on the scale and write down the weight.
Heat the cup on the hot plate until the temp is 212 degrees  
Fahrenheit (the boiling point of water). When it reaches 212 turn off  
the hot plate and remove the cup.
Weigh the cup with fuel again and record the weight.

If there is a gram or more difference between the preheated and the  
postheated weights, the fuel probably contains water.

If you have questions, call me. 971-563-2477.

Have fun. Be safe. Feed Bio the cat 1 cup of food (in the conex).



On Jul 22, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Pete Kramer wrote:

> guess that zac@ email is no good now, huh?..
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Pete Kramer <pete_kramer2-/[email protected]>
> To: Tamar More <[email protected]>
> Cc: Zac Imboden <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:06:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [mixmasters] Mixmaster work schedules
>
> Thanks much for getting that info out there!  I don't know how you  
> feel, but this is a fantastic start towards getting us up and going  
> again as a coop!  Just a heads-up that I don't see on my pc any  
> bold lettering for the expierenced mixmasters as it mentions out  
> there.
>
> I will be out there on Mon!
>
> Pete
> p.s. message to Zac, I saw in the log book that Bill and Tom on Wed  
> moved the remaining fuel out of dist tote into black barrel and  
> moved finished fuel in dryer into ditr tote and said it passed  
> 3/27.  I was at the site yesterday just to get some Bluesky fuel  
> and had a little bit of extra time so thought I would practice some  
> 3/27 tests.  Bluesky fuel passed, saw NO bubbles.  Tested fuel in  
> dist tote (actually what was left in the dist tote distribution  
> hose) and I don't think it was even close to passing.  It should  
> definitely be checked again.  And this may raise a bigger issue of  
> testing training and working on cosistency since we will be having  
> 5,8,10,++ different members doing our quality control tests.  I  
> guess this was a long p.s... oh well.
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "More, Tamar" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:42:02 PM
> Subject: [mixmasters] Mixmaster work schedules
>
> I updated the mixmaster calendar on the coop web site:
> http://www.gobiodiesel.org/index.php?title=Mixmaster_calendar
>
> It is a work in progress, but for now there is a list of scheduled  
> work sessions through the first week in August. I also added an  
> area for listing additional availability which has not been  
> scheduled, either for lack of a partner (we don't want people  
> working at the site alone). I am posting these so if someone can  
> team up with someone else ont he list, they can join forces without  
> having to go throuh me. Of course, I will also be actively trying  
> to clear that area as well. Note that there are several people in  
> the process of being trrained, so they need to partner up for now  
> with the more experienced mixmasters.
>
> tamar
>
>
>
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Zac Imboden
[email protected]
6355 North Burrage Ave
Portland, OR
97217
971-563-2477





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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; =
-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks Pete.<DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Testing is very simple (for =
now).</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>BEFORE =
PUMPING FUEL INTO WASH TOTE: We test a sample of fuel before pumping it =
into the wash. Use the 3/27 test.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>AFTER DRYING FUEL: We test =
another sample of fuel when it has dried. Use the 3/27 test AND do a =
heat test.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Here=
 are the test procedures:</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>3/27 =
test</DIV><DIV>-------------------------</DIV><DIV>Mix 3 ml of oil with =
27 ml of methanol. Use the yellow bulbed eye dropper to measure oil. Use =
the 100ml graduated cylinder to measure methanol. There is a glass jar =
labelled methanol with the other chemical supplies. Mix the two in a =
closed CLEAN jar. Swirl it for about a minute. As you swirl, if there =
are any droplets of FFAs, they will coalesce together into a liquid-like =
bead of pale yellow. If you see any sized bead, the fuel hasn't fully =
reacted. If you are in doubt, do a second test.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Heat =
test</DIV><DIV>---------------------------</DIV><DIV>use one of the =
metal cups to measure 20ml of fuel.</DIV><DIV>Weigh the cup with fuel on =
the scale and write down the weight.</DIV><DIV>Heat the cup on the hot =
plate until the temp is 212 degrees Fahrenheit (the boiling point of =
water). When it reaches 212 turn off the hot plate and remove the =
cup.</DIV><DIV>Weigh the cup with fuel again and record the =
weight.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If =
there is a gram or more difference between the preheated and the =
postheated weights, the fuel probably contains water.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If you have questions, call =
me. 971-563-2477.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Have fun. Be safe. Feed Bio =
the cat 1 cup of food (in the conex).</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 22, =
2007, at 8:34 AM, Pete Kramer wrote:</DIV><BR =
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font-size: 16px; ">From: Pete Kramer &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:pete_kramer2-/[email protected]">pete_kramer2-/[email protected]</A>&gt;</SPA=
N><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
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style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; ">Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:06:08 PM</SPAN><BR =
style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; ">Subject: Re: [mixmasters] Mixmaster work =
schedules</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: =
16px; "><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; =
"><DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, =
serif; font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; ">Thanks much for getting that info out there!=A0 I =
don't know how you feel, but this is a fantastic start towards getting =
us up and going again as a coop!=A0 Just a heads-up that I don't see on =
my pc any bold lettering for the expierenced mixmasters as it mentions =
out there.=A0</SPAN></DIV><DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: =
times new roman; font-size: 16px; ">=A0</SPAN></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, =
serif; font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; ">I will be out there on Mon!</SPAN></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, =
serif; font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
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new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; ">Pete</SPAN><BR =
style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, =
serif; font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; ">p.s. message to Zac, I saw in the log book that Bill =
and Tom on Wed moved the remaining fuel out of dist tote into black =
barrel and moved finished fuel in dryer into ditr tote and said it =
passed 3/27.=A0 I was at the site yesterday just to get some Bluesky =
fuel and had a little bit of extra time so thought I would practice some =
3/27 tests.=A0=A0Bluesky fuel passed, saw NO bubbles.=A0 Tested fuel in =
dist tote (actually what was left in the dist tote distribution hose) =
and I don't think it was even close to passing.=A0 It should definitely =
be checked again.=A0 And this may raise a bigger issue of testing =
training and working on cosistency since we will be having 5,8,10,++ =
different members doing our quality control tests.=A0 I guess this was a =
long p.s... oh well.</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; "></DIV><DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: =
times new roman; font-size: 16px; ">----- Original Message =
----</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; =
"><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new =
roman; font-size: 16px; ">From: "More, Tamar" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR =
style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
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href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]=
com</A></SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: =
16px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new =
roman; font-size: 16px; ">Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:42:02 =
PM</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; =
"><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new =
roman; font-size: 16px; ">Subject: [mixmasters] Mixmaster work =
schedules</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: =
16px; "><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px; "><P =
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size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times =
new roman; font-size: 10px; ">I updated the mixmaster calendar on the =
coop web site:</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; =
font-size: 10px; "><A =
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font-size: 10px; ">It is a work in progress, but for now there is a list =
of scheduled work sessions through the first week in August. I also =
added an area for listing additional availability which has not been =
scheduled, either for lack of a partner (we don't want people working at =
the site alone). I am posting these so if someone can team up with =
someone else ont he list, they can join forces without having to go =
throuh me. Of course, I will also be actively trying to clear that area =
as well. Note that there are several people in the process of being =
trrained, so they need to partner up for now with the more experienced =
mixmasters.</SPAN><BR style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: =
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