Re: Mixmaster work schedules

"George M. Peters" <gmp402001-/[email protected]> Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.org.clubs.gobiodiesel.mixmasters
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Zac,=0A=0AYou waer right on Tue PM 7/31 when you said there is a valve and =
male outlet above the pump on wash tank one.  I used it several times 8/1 &=
2.=0A=0AThe water heater is not working current is flowing at one terminal =
of the element but not on the other so the element may be cooked.=0A=0AFolk=
s who can fix it......please respond.......fuel washing is stopped for now=
=0A=0AGeorge=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Zac Imboden <zimboden=
@invisibility.com>=0ATo: GoBiodiesel Mixmasters <[email protected]=
.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:26:30 PM=0ASubject: Re: [mixmasters]=
 Mixmaster work schedules=0A=0AThanks Pete.=0A=0ATesting is very simple (fo=
r now).=0A=0A=0ABEFORE PUMPING FUEL INTO WASH TOTE: We test a sample of fue=
l before pumping it into the wash. Use the 3/27 test.=0A=0A=0AAFTER DRYING =
FUEL: We test another sample of fuel when it has dried. Use the 3/27 test A=
ND do a heat test.=0A=0A=0AHere are the test procedures:=0A=0A=0A3/27 test=
=0A-------------------------=0AMix 3 ml of oil with 27 ml of methanol. Use =
the yellow bulbed eye dropper to measure oil. Use the 100ml graduated cylin=
der to measure methanol. There is a glass jar labelled methanol with the ot=
her chemical supplies. Mix the two in a closed CLEAN jar. Swirl it for abou=
t a minute. As you swirl, if there are any droplets of FFAs, they will coal=
esce together into a liquid-like bead of pale yellow. If you see any sized =
bead, the fuel hasn't fully reacted. If you are in doubt, do a second test.=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHeat test=0A---------------------------=0Ause one of the met=
al cups to measure 20ml of fuel.=0AWeigh the cup with fuel on the scale and=
 write down the weight.=0AHeat the cup on the hot plate until the temp is 2=
12 degrees Fahrenheit (the boiling point of water). When it reaches 212 tur=
n off the hot plate and remove the cup.=0AWeigh the cup with fuel again and=
 record the weight.=0A=0A=0AIf there is a gram or more difference between t=
he preheated and the postheated weights, the fuel probably contains water.=
=0A=0A=0AIf you have questions, call me. 971-563-2477.=0A=0A=0AHave fun. Be=
 safe. Feed Bio the cat 1 cup of food (in the conex).=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn J=
ul 22, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Pete Kramer wrote:=0A=0Aguess that zac@ email is n=
o good now, huh?..=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Pete Kramer <p=
ete_kramer2-/[email protected]>=0ATo: Tamar More <[email protected]>=0ACc: Zac Imboden <za=
[email protected]>=0ASent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:06:08 PM=0ASubject: Re=
: [mixmasters] Mixmaster work schedules=0A=0AThanks much for getting that i=
nfo out there!  I don't know how you feel, but this is a fantastic start to=
wards getting us up and going again as a coop!  Just a heads-up that I don'=
t see on my pc any bold lettering for the expierenced mixmasters as it ment=
ions out there. =0A =0AI will be out there on Mon!=0A =0APete=0A=0Ap.s. mes=
sage to Zac, I saw in the log book that Bill and Tom on Wed moved the remai=
ning fuel out of dist tote into black barrel and moved finished fuel in dry=
er into ditr tote and said it passed 3/27.  I was at the site yesterday jus=
t to get some Bluesky fuel and had a little bit of extra time so thought I =
would practice some 3/27 tests.  Bluesky fuel passed, saw NO bubbles.  Test=
ed fuel in dist tote (actually what was left in the dist tote distribution =
hose) and I don't think it was even close to passing.  It should definitely=
 be checked again.  And this may raise a bigger issue of testing training a=
nd working on cosistency since we will be having 5,8,10,++ different member=
s doing our quality control tests.  I guess this was a long p.s... oh well.=
=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "More, Tamar" <[email protected]>=0ATo:=
 [email protected]=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:42:02 PM=
=0ASubject: [mixmasters] Mixmaster work schedules=0A=0AI updated the mixmas=
ter calendar on the coop web site:=0Ahttp://www.gobiodiesel.org/index.php?t=
itle=3DMixmaster_calendar=0A=0AIt is a work in progress, but for now there =
is a list of scheduled work sessions through the first week in August. I al=
so added an area for listing additional availability which has not been sch=
eduled, either for lack of a partner (we don't want people working at the s=
ite alone). I am posting these so if someone can team up with someone else =
ont he list, they can join forces without having to go throuh me. Of course=
, I will also be actively trying to clear that area as well. Note that ther=
e are several people in the process of being trrained, so they need to part=
ner up for now with the more experienced mixmasters.=0A=0Atamar=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A=0AShape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today=
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 pocket: mail, news, photos & more.=0A=0A ---------------------------------=
-----------------------------=0AZac [email protected]=0A6=
355 North Burrage Ave=0APortland, OR=0A97217=0A971-563-2477=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A       =0A__________________________________=
__________________________________________________=0ASick sense of humor? V=
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font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,s=
erif; font-size: 12pt;">Zac,<br><br>You waer right on Tue PM 7/31 when you =
said there is a valve and male outlet above the pump on wash tank one.&nbsp=
; I used it several times 8/1 &amp;2.<br><br>The water heater is not workin=
g current is flowing at one terminal of the element but not on the other so=
 the element may be cooked.<br><br>Folks who can fix it......please respond=
.......fuel washing is stopped for now<br><br>George<br><br><div style=3D"f=
ont-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- O=
riginal Message ----<br>From: Zac Imboden &lt;[email protected]&gt;=
<br>To: GoBiodiesel Mixmasters &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>Se=
nt: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:26:30 PM<br>Subject: Re: [mixmasters] Mixmaste=
r
 work schedules<br><br>Thanks Pete.<div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholde=
r"></div><div>Testing is very simple (for now).</div><div><br class=3D"khtm=
l-block-placeholder"></div><div>BEFORE PUMPING FUEL INTO WASH TOTE: We test=
 a sample of fuel before pumping it into the wash. Use the 3/27 test.</div>=
<div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>AFTER DRYING FUEL: We=
 test another sample of fuel when it has dried. Use the 3/27 test AND do a =
heat test.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>Here =
are the test procedures:</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></=
div><div>3/27 test</div><div>-------------------------</div><div>Mix 3 ml o=
f oil with 27 ml of methanol. Use the yellow bulbed eye dropper to measure =
oil. Use the 100ml graduated cylinder to measure methanol. There is a glass=
 jar labelled methanol with the other chemical supplies. Mix the two in a c=
losed CLEAN jar. Swirl it for about a minute. As you swirl, if there are an=
y
 droplets of FFAs, they will coalesce together into a liquid-like bead of p=
ale yellow. If you see any sized bead, the fuel hasn't fully reacted. If yo=
u are in doubt, do a second test.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeh=
older"></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>Heat tes=
t</div><div>---------------------------</div><div>use one of the metal cups=
 to measure 20ml of fuel.</div><div>Weigh the cup with fuel on the scale an=
d write down the weight.</div><div>Heat the cup on the hot plate until the =
temp is 212 degrees Fahrenheit (the boiling point of water). When it reache=
s 212 turn off the hot plate and remove the cup.</div><div>Weigh the cup wi=
th fuel again and record the weight.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-pla=
ceholder"></div><div>If there is a gram or more difference between the preh=
eated and the postheated weights, the fuel probably contains water.</div><d=
iv><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>If you have questions,
 call me. 971-563-2477.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></d=
iv><div>Have fun. Be safe. Feed Bio the cat 1 cup of food (in the conex).</=
div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class=3D"khtm=
l-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 22, 2007, at 8:34 AM, =
Pete Kramer wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: s=
eparate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
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mal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-tr=
ansform: none; orphans: ; white-space: normal; widows: ; word-spacing: 0px;=
"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><div style=
=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-st=
yle-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">guess th=
at zac@ email is
 no good now, huh?..</span><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-=
size: 16px;"><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><=
div style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D=
"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"=
>----- Forwarded Message ----</span><br style=3D"font-family: times new rom=
an; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">From: Pete Kramer &lt;<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:pete_kramer2-/[email protected]">pete_kramer2@y=
ahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size=
: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new r=
oman; font-size: 16px;">To: Tamar More &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"fo=
nt-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-sp=
an" style=3D"font-family: times
 new roman; font-size: 16px;">Cc: Zac Imboden &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt=
;</span><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size=
: 16px;">Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:06:08 PM</span><br style=3D"font-f=
amily: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">Subject: Re: [mixm=
asters] Mixmaster work schedules</span><br style=3D"font-family: times new =
roman; font-size: 16px;"><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-si=
ze: 16px;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">=
Thanks much for getting that info out there!&nbsp; I don't know how you fee=
l, but this is a
 fantastic start towards getting us up and going again as a coop!&nbsp; Jus=
t a heads-up that I don't see on my pc any bold lettering for the expierenc=
ed mixmasters as it mentions out there.&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-spa=
n" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">&nbsp;</span></=
div><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 1=
6px;">I will be out there on Mon!</span></div><div style=3D"font-family: ti=
mes new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"=
font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">&nbsp;</span></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-=
style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">Pete</=
span><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"></div><di=
v
 style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">p.=
s. message to Zac, I saw in the log book that Bill and Tom on Wed moved the=
 remaining fuel out of dist tote into black barrel and moved finished fuel =
in dryer into ditr tote and said it passed 3/27.&nbsp; I was at the site ye=
sterday just to get some Bluesky fuel and had a little bit of extra time so=
 thought I would practice some 3/27 tests.&nbsp;&nbsp;Bluesky fuel passed, =
saw NO bubbles.&nbsp; Tested fuel in dist tote (actually what was left in t=
he dist tote distribution hose) and I don't think it was even close to pass=
ing.&nbsp; It should definitely be checked again.&nbsp; And this may raise =
a bigger issue of testing training and working on cosistency since we will =
be having 5,8,10,++ different members doing our quality control tests.&nbsp=
; I guess this was a long p.s... oh well.</span><br style=3D"font-family:
 times new roman; font-size: 16px;"></div><div style=3D"font-family: times =
new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font=
-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">----- Original Message ----</sp=
an><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16p=
x;">From: "More, Tamar" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"font-family: time=
s new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"fo=
nt-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mixmasters@list=
s.osourcery.com</a></span><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-s=
ize: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times ne=
w roman; font-size: 16px;">Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:42:02 PM</span><=
br style=3D"font-family: times
 new roman; font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"fon=
t-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;">Subject: [mixmasters] Mixmaste=
r work schedules</span><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size=
: 16px;"><br style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><p st=
yle=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 16px;"><font size=3D"2"><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-s=
ize: 10px;">I updated the mixmaster calendar on the coop web site:</span><b=
r style=3D"font-family: times new roman; font-size: 10px;"><a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.gobiodiesel.org/index.php?title=3D=
Mixmaster_calendar"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(0,=
 0, 238); font-family: times new roman; font-size: 10px;">http://www.gobiod=
iesel.org/index.php?title=3DMixmaster_calendar</span></a><br style=3D"font-=
family: times new roman; font-size: 10px;"><br style=3D"font-family: times =
new roman; font-size:
 10px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: times new ro=
man; font-size: 10px;">It is a work in progress, but for now there is a lis=
t of scheduled work sessions through the first week in August. I also added=
 an area for listing additional availability which has not been scheduled, =
either for lack of a partner (we don't want people working at the site alon=
e). I am posting these so if someone can team up with someone else ont he l=
ist, they can join forces without having to go throuh me. Of course, I will=
 also be actively trying to clear that area as well. Note that there are se=
veral people in the process of being trrained, so they need to partner up f=
or now with the more experienced mixmasters.</span><br style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman; font-size: 10px;"><br style=3D"font-family: times new ro=
man; font-size: 10px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-famil=
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----------------</div><div>Zac Imboden</div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow"
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