Re: Things to do on site

Zac Imboden <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.clubs.gobiodiesel
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I am planning on meeting Felix down at the site tomorrow to work on  
the methanol still. I can bring a wheelbarrow.

On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:07 AM, Pete Kramer wrote:

> Thanks for the update Felix.
>
>   If you can make it out to the site this Sat, we could sure use  
> the extra hands to help with the concrete.  Sounds like this is THE  
> #1 thing that needs to be handled right now.  I will be down there  
> starting around 9am.  We need wheel barrels, you have 1 or more to  
> share?..  We will be moving the concrete and creating a retaining  
> wall at teh far end of the site.
>
>   Hope to see you and I think I am on the site planning list, but  
> don't think I have seen any chatter there?..
>
>   Pete
>
>
>
> Felix Kersting <[email protected]> wrote:
>   Tom's ideas about what to do at the site are ok, but I am acting  
> as the
> contact with the DEQ and City of Milwaukie. I haven't seen anything
> more than the letter from the city to Brian. If there is new
> information from the city, please let me know. There is no time crisis
> with DEQ or the City of Milwaukie - I have talked to both fellows who
> were at the site. They want a plan from us, but not within the 30 days
> stated in the letter. The deadline had to do with moving the Blue Sky
> pump and removing the rat harborage - concrete and brush piles - I  
> know
> Seth has called for work party help to take care of this but as of 2
> weeks ago there was no progress.
>
> Building the cover for the outside processor area was nixed by site
> group earlier this year. If we want to revisit this decision, lets
> discuss it at a meeting. I am available many weeknights, but am doing
> some traveling again with my new job.
>
> Any containment needs to have a way to deal with rain and flood water
> and safely dispose of water that accumulates. Plastic under gravel
> doesn't meet any codes and can't be checked for accumulation or leaks.
> Currently we are thinking concrete containment basin. DEQ technically
> has no jurisdiction in the matter (but could in the future), and says
> they will be cool with whatever the fire marshal asks for. I have
> reviewed the fire code and containment issues and don't agree with  
> Tom's
> interpretation of the containment requirement. It is more like 100% of
> the volume on site plus 10% or 24 hours of maximum rainfall but we
> should discuss with the fire marshal. Having everything lashed down in
> case of a flood is at least as important.
>
> Currently it appears we will tell the city we expect to have 4k to 8k
> gallons of veg oil & bioD on site and need to demonstrate to them we
> understand how to safely store and use it.
>
> I have no heartburn with a temporary shelter, but it may need to come
> down when the complete site plan is developed. I can't say if the coop
> wants to spend funds on this project, especially if it is temporary.
>
> We DO need a solar air heater for the drying system......
>
> If you are interested in site planning issues, please subscribe to the
> siteplan list. That's a great place for these discussions.
>
> I have been lying low because I am focused on my new job. I will  
> try to
> be on site this weekend, but may not be there for work parties.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Felix Kersting
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