Re: FWB: Foss with benefits
"L.Cecilie Wian" <[email protected]> Thu, 5 Feb 2015 08:12:59 +0100
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--===============8641648819118529859== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133dda6ae90ac050e520827 --001a1133dda6ae90ac050e520827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I may sound like I got bitten by Richard, but, you keep saying "open source", not "free software". That matters. At least when you send out on this list. I will probably take a look at your project, but it doesn't feel like you are listening to marko . And you should. 5. feb. 2015 08:03 skrev "Charles Coss=C3=A9" <[email protected]>: > Hi Marko, > > I am trying to find some interested FOSS developers, and I believe this i= s > one of the right places. This project can help you, FOSS developers and > parents. Every parent I've talked to says "our family needs that". "Tha= t" > refers to a way to supplement video game time with constructive, > educational activity. I have developed a simple, open source > credit-meter/router using a Raspberry-Pi running Gentoo Linux which solve= s > the micro-management issues that arise when trying to supplement ones' > childrens' education. > > The other half of the equation is the educational activities. For this > there is a website built to accommodate open source contributions from > developers. I propose to (someday) charge a modest subscription fee to > parents, but not for profit or to be objectionable in any way ... but > rather, to then let parents distribute that fee among the FOSS activity > developers of their choice. Not an app store, b/c full access to > everything. It's better, IMO, because it maintains engagement between th= e > user and developer communities (something often lacking) and promotes FOS= S > development in several ways. > > The FSF's resource directory for elementary education > <http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category/Education/elementary> contains > only 33 projects, 4 (12%) of which are my own. Projects like GCompris > certainly have far more content than my little projects, but I do feel > qualified to say that there is certainly room for more. And this project > should not only create more FOSS software for elementary education, but > accelerate the rate of development by maintaining the engagement between > users and developers. > > So let's discuss it! I encourage interested developers and parents, > alike, to become involved. There are already great FOSS software project= s > like GCompris, Childsplay and others. I am a fan of them all. It's a > 0:1 proposition when it comes to FOSS. It's all good. This project > represents something a little different. It's web-based, and it offers a > mechanism to compensate FOSS developers, while maintaining pure open sour= ce > principles. > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Marko Dimja=C5=A1evi=C4=87 <marko@dimjase= vic.net> > wrote: > >> >> What did you have in mind when you said it is "non-commercial"? >> > > My intended meaning was "no objectionable (to FOSS community) ingredients= " > > > > I am interested to fix any holes in my scheme, though, so could you >> > elaborate on where I could be mistaken? >> >> When a non-informed audience uses terms like "non-commercial" ... >> >> Maybe you didn't mean anything like that, but then maybe you could be >> more clear. >> > > That is correct, I was referring to "holes in my scheme", not holes in my > understanding of what open source software is :) > > Finally, let me just add that I would really like to attract developers > (and users) internationally, so that it doesn't look like a local project > filled with people from my area. The fact that it is web-based and easil= y > i18-ized will hopefully be a virtue in that respect. > > So if any FOSS developers or parents are intrigued by this then I hope yo= u > will continue this discussion with your input. > > Thanks! > Charles Coss=C3=A9 > > _______________________________________________ > European "Free Software in Education" mailing list > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-eu > > --001a1133dda6ae90ac050e520827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p dir=3D"ltr">Now I may sound like I got bitten by Richard, but,=C2=A0 you= keep saying "open source",=C2=A0 not "free software". = That matters. At least when you send out=C2=A0 on this list. </p> <p dir=3D"ltr">I will probably take a look at your project,=C2=A0 but it do= esn't feel like you are listening to marko . And you should. </p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">5. feb. 2015 08:03 skrev "Charles Coss=C3= =A9" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>:= <br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:= 0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi= Marko,<br><br><div>I am trying to find some interested FOSS developers, an= d I believe this is one of the right places.=C2=A0 This project can help yo= u, FOSS developers and parents.=C2=A0 Every parent I've talked to says = "our family needs that".=C2=A0 "That" refers to a way t= o supplement video game time with constructive, educational activity. =C2= =A0=C2=A0 I have developed a simple, open source credit-meter/router using = a Raspberry-Pi running Gentoo Linux which solves the micro-management issue= s that arise when trying to supplement ones' childrens' education.= =C2=A0 <br><br></div><div>The other half of the equation is the educational= activities.=C2=A0 For this there is a website built to accommodate open so= urce contributions from developers.=C2=A0 I propose to (someday) charge a m= odest subscription fee to parents, but not for profit or to be objectionabl= e in any way ... but rather, to then let parents distribute that fee among = the FOSS activity developers of their choice.=C2=A0 Not an app store, b/c f= ull access to everything.=C2=A0 It's better, IMO, because it maintains = engagement between the user and developer communities (something often lack= ing) and promotes FOSS development in several ways.=C2=A0 <br><br></div><di= v>The FSF's <a href=3D"http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category/Education= /elementary" target=3D"_blank">resource directory for elementary education<= /a> contains only 33 projects, 4 (12%) of which are my own.=C2=A0 Projects= like GCompris certainly have far more content than my little projects, but= I do feel qualified to say that there is certainly room for more.=C2=A0 An= d this project should not only create more FOSS software for elementary edu= cation, but accelerate the rate of development by maintaining the engagemen= t between users and developers.<br><br></div><div>So let's discuss it!= =C2=A0 I encourage interested developers and parents, alike, to become invo= lved.=C2=A0 There are already great FOSS software projects like GCompris, C= hildsplay and others.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am a fan of them all.=C2=A0=C2=A0 It= 9;s a 0:1 proposition when it comes to FOSS.=C2=A0 It's all good.=C2=A0= This project represents something a little different.=C2=A0 It's web-b= ased, and it offers a mechanism to compensate FOSS developers, while mainta= ining pure open source principles.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br><br></div><div>= <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 20= 15 at 8:39 PM, Marko Dimja=C5=A1evi=C4=87 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"= mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>= </span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px= 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> What did you have in mind when you said it is "non-commercial"?<s= pan><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My intended meaning was &qu= ot;no objectionable (to FOSS community) ingredients"<br></div><div><br= ><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.= 8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span> > I am interested to fix any holes in my scheme, though, so could you<br= > > elaborate on where I could be mistaken?<br> <br> </span>When a non-informed audience uses terms like "non-commercial&qu= ot; ...<br> <br> Maybe you didn't mean anything like that, but then maybe you could be<b= r> more clear.<br> </blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">That is correct, I = was referring to "holes in my scheme", not holes in my understand= ing of what open source software is :) <br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_ex= tra">Finally, let me just add that I would really like to attract developer= s (and users) internationally, so that it doesn't look like a local pro= ject filled with people from my area.=C2=A0 The fact that it is web-based a= nd easily i18-ized will hopefully be a virtue in that respect.<br><br>So if= any FOSS developers or parents are intrigued by this then I hope you will = continue this discussion with your input.=C2=A0 <br></div><div class=3D"gma= il_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Thanks!<br>Charles Coss=C3= =A9</div></div></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> European "Free Software in Education" mailing list<br> <br> <a href=3D"https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-eu" target=3D"_blank"= >https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-eu</a><br> <br></blockquote></div> --001a1133dda6ae90ac050e520827-- --===============8641648819118529859== Content-Type: text/plain; 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