Re: [DE] Please use "Supporter" instead of "Unterstützer" in German translations from now

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I think that distinguishing between "Supporter" and "supporter" -- both on
the FSFE's English pages and in its English messaging in the future -- in
these two senses is a good idea.

FWIW, I am a native speaker of (U.S.) English.  I support the FSFE in both
of these senses, and I am also a "supporter" of the FSFE in a third sense,
in addition to donating regularly and volunteering.  As a long-retired
computer programmer (and an even longer-retired lawyer), I support the aims
of the FSFE.

Here is the suggestion, for those who may not have kept it.


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From: Johannes N=C3=A4der <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 9:08=E2=80=AFAM
Subject: [Translators] [DE] Please use "Supporter" instead of
"Unterst=C3=BCtzer" in German translations from now
To: <[email protected]>


Hi all,

after a decision on a coherent German translation of the English word
"supporter", all static pages on fsfe.org have now been updated.

 From now, please use:

EN | DE
supporter | Supporter
supporter of the FSFE | FSFE-Supporter
supporter contribution | Supporter-Beitrag
to support (verb) | unterst=C3=BCtzen (no change here)
support (noun) | Unterst=C3=BCtzung (no change here)

The idea is to have a fix word for everyone who donates to the FSFE on a
recurring basis - be it monthly or yearly, clearly distinguishing them from
people who do one-time donations and from volunteers and people who
contribute
to our work in other ways.

Best,
Johannes
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Johannes N=C3=A4der
Senior Policy Project Manager | Coordinator Germany
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.
Revaler Str. 19, 10245 Berlin
Matrix: @jn:fsfe.org | Email: [email protected]

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On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 9:19=E2=80=AFAM Florian Snow <[email protected]>=
 wrote:

> Hi Johannes,
>
> There may be a good case for capitalizing the word in English. The
> decision to adopt the English word "Supporter" as a loanword in German
> rather than using the translation "Unterst=C3=BCtzer" shows that it's bei=
ng
> treated as a specific, defined term. If it were just a descriptive
> word, we would simply translate it. The fact that it resists
> translation indicates it functions more like a title or brand name. In
> that case, that should probably be reflected in English as well by
> capitalizing it as "Supporter". And perhaps other languages should keep
> the term as well, but that's a separate question.
>
> Happy hacking!
> Florian
>
> --
> I volunteer with the FSFE to support software freedom.
> =E2=9C=A8 Get active too or donate: https://fsfe.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think that distinguishing between &quot;Supporter&q=
uot; and &quot;supporter&quot; -- both on the FSFE&#39;s English pages and =
in its English messaging in the future -- in these two senses is a good ide=
a.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>FWIW, I am a native speaker of (U.S.=
) English.=C2=A0 I support the FSFE in both of these senses, and I am also =
a &quot;supporter&quot; of the FSFE in a third sense, in addition to donati=
ng regularly and volunteering.=C2=A0 As a long-retired computer programmer =
(and an even longer-retired lawyer), I support the aims of the FSFE.=C2=A0 =
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the suggestion, for those who may not=
 have kept it.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">--------=
-- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=
=3D"auto">Johannes N=C3=A4der</b> <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 9:08=
=E2=80=AFAM<br>Subject: [Translators] [DE] Please use &quot;Supporter&quot;=
 instead of &quot;Unterst=C3=BCtzer&quot; in German translations from now<b=
r>To:  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">translators@lists.=
fsfe.org</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br>Hi all,<br>
<br>
after a decision on a coherent German translation of the English word <br>
&quot;supporter&quot;, all static pages on <a href=3D"http://fsfe.org" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fsfe.org</a> have now been updated.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0From now, please use:<br>
<br>
EN | DE<br>
supporter | Supporter<br>
supporter of the FSFE | FSFE-Supporter<br>
supporter contribution | Supporter-Beitrag<br>
to support (verb) | unterst=C3=BCtzen (no change here)<br>
support (noun) | Unterst=C3=BCtzung (no change here)<br>
<br>
The idea is to have a fix word for everyone who donates to the FSFE on a <b=
r>
recurring basis - be it monthly or yearly, clearly distinguishing them from=
 <br>
people who do one-time donations and from volunteers and people who contrib=
ute <br>
to our work in other ways.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Johannes<br>
-- <br>
Johannes N=C3=A4der<br>
Senior Policy Project Manager | Coordinator Germany<br>
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.<br>
Revaler Str. 19, 10245 Berlin<br>
Matrix: @jn:<a href=3D"http://fsfe.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">fsfe.org</a> | Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jn=
@fsfe.org</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>[Translators List trailer omit=
ted]</div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_containe=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 9:19=E2=80=
=AFAM Florian Snow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">floriansnow@=
fsfe.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">Hi Johannes,<br>
<br>
There may be a good case for capitalizing the word in English. The<br>
decision to adopt the English word &quot;Supporter&quot; as a loanword in G=
erman<br>
rather than using the translation &quot;Unterst=C3=BCtzer&quot; shows that =
it&#39;s being<br>
treated as a specific, defined term. If it were just a descriptive<br>
word, we would simply translate it. The fact that it resists<br>
translation indicates it functions more like a title or brand name. In<br>
that case, that should probably be reflected in English as well by<br>
capitalizing it as &quot;Supporter&quot;. And perhaps other languages shoul=
d keep<br>
the term as well, but that&#39;s a separate question.<br>
<br>
Happy hacking!<br>
Florian<br>
<br>
-- <br>
I volunteer with the FSFE to support software freedom.<br>
=E2=9C=A8 Get active too or donate: <a href=3D"https://fsfe.org" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://fsfe.org</a><br>
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ey are genuine.&quot; -- Abraham Lincoln</div></div>

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