Re: Rep:Re: [NOUR] NOUR Progress ?

i'm wondering.. It seems to me that there are some residing users who
are just here to watch! Its one of our goals that we share our work with
others. But why others don't play in a team since they come and hit that
button to register to the list !!! Look guys, Handasa Arabia is about
filtering all bad manners in the culture of some people.. This is not a
One man show place. Whoever joins this list should introduce himself for
the working group. If he finds a place to participate with his skills
and knowledge or a place even to learn like the most of us He is
Most-welcome. But, It is not accepted at all that someone pops up while
people are discussing their work plan and schedule( seems like that we
are loosing track for him!) and then he/she proposed his own personal
work just to help the ship from drawn ... why this is not the case since
you join .. why you pop up with such a message to offer your work !!! 

My friend, Your work should be OPEN and Your Knowledge should be OPEN.
This is an Open-Source Community which has many skilled people around. 
If u wanna participate , send your work documentation FIRST to
[email protected] , Let us FIRST investigate what kind of work is
it and would it be tuned to our tasks and our implementation of
blue-tooth or not ? Again .This is an Open-source community that is here
to develop the OPEN Culture for all registered people. 

Last Note; Handasa Arabia is an Open-Source Engineering Systems's
Solutions Organization !!!!! BE open Be a member .. Be alone .. please
be working for your self ..!!!!
Thanks ...

Best Regards,
-- 
Mohamed A.Salem
Handasa Arabia Organization
www.handasarabia.org
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:40, Hany KAMAL wrote:
> It's been a long time that i'm working on building an individual link
> level "PHY" also combined with a system level simulator for BT on
> MATLAB. !!
> 
> i don't know if that could help.
> it really takes VERY LONG TIME.
> but i like that and i'm going on anyway .
> 
> salam
> Hany 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De: Mike Rowehl <[email protected]>
> A: [email protected]
> Date: 31/08/03
> Objet: Re: [NOUR] NOUR Progress ?
> 
> On  0, Mohamed Eldesoky <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So what ?
> > Why I see it stalled suddenly here ??
> > 
> I think cause no one knows already how to do what we need to do, and
> it's
> taking a long time to learn.  Reading the Bluetooth 1.1 spec (more than
> 1000
> pages) is a pretty lengthy task on it's own.  But then we have the
> problem that
> the hardware and software sides don't quite meet up in terms of both 
> terminology and expectations.  I've been trying to learn VHDL to get a
> bit of
> a better grip on how we should continue, so that I can understand the
> type of
> hardware design that everyone has been talking about.  But that also is
> very 
> slow going.  I understand the contents of the VHDL book that I have, but
> there
> aren't very good open source tools to learn with.  Plus, I still don't
> have a
> very good idea about how this would actually be used.  The information
> I've 
> found online says that VHDL can be used for both setting up simulation
> and for
> synthesis, but when I've asked about using design files to setup tests
> it seems
> there are other ill-defined steps required before they can be used.
> 
> I haven't been posting anything because I don't think I have a good plan
> for 
> how to implement what our next steps should be.  No one else has stepped
> up
> with an alternate plan, so I'm assuming we would like to setup a
> simulated 
> NOUR environment.  But who is familiar enough over all of Bluetooth,
> hardware
> design, and software to setup a system?  I would be willing to setup the
> 
> software end of these things, but I'm just not familiar enough with
> hardware to be able to answer the questions that come up from the
> hardware side about how
> that simulation would be used to validate designs.  Since that work
> might not
> be very usefull in the long run, I've held off from doing it while I
> read.
> That has been taking a VERY long time.  I'm still around however.
> 
>                                                             Mike
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