Re: [OS:N:] Another multiple response (Basic rights warmed up in the microwave again)

James Michael DuPont <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.open-source-now
Message-ID <[email protected]>
--- "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, along with the 100 programs are many pages of related writings.
> 
> Since you mentioned the topic of this list and noise, I'm amazed
> we're 
> having so many people on a list called "Open Source Now" writing in 
> favor of artificially created IP "rights." Maybe they should join a
> list 
> called "IP Now."

W0rd!! THat is the exact same thing that I am thinking.

Or Open-Source-So-We-Can-Sell-IP-Now : OSSWCSIP for short.

The next best way to caputre a market and take away all thier freedoms.

When I talk about the rights of the students, I mean that as well. When
you look at the contracts, laws and EULA, you see that they are
designed on limiting the rights of the users. 

Now, why do these rights have to be limited, unless they were there to
begin with? The rights to view and edit and change source code are
there until they are taken away by contract or agreement. 

In the pure state, a human is not bound by contract, only by binding
themselves to various agreements do these rights become take away.

The proponents of IP on this list are interested in these "rightless"
people because they do not trust them, and because they can help pay
off thier morgages and buy luxary goods for thier children. But there
are other ways to do this without taking away student rights, like
teaching them things.

I challenge you IP people to make some statements about students and
user rights in general, that is the context of this list, or am I
wrong?

mike

> 
> 
> Dee-Ann LeBlanc wrote:
> > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > <With all due respect, Dee-Ann, as an author of over 100 free and
> open 
> > source programs licensed under the GPL, I understand from years of 
> > personal experience how much work goes into such creations.>
> > 
> > No, I don't think you do. Writing and programming are apples and
> oranges
> > issues. However, I really don't think this is the topic of this
> list, so
> > rather than contributing to the noise ratio, I think I'll bow out.
> > 
> 
> 
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