Re: [OS:N:] RE: N:] RE: Updating Expensive?

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 12:28, Chris Spencer wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 07:56, Brian E. Adams wrote:
> > If you figure the cost of Windows is fixed and the cost of RHN is annual,
> > then you're right, it can get more expensive.
> > 
> > However, to RedHat's credit, you can have a single machine subscribed to RHN
> > via RedHat's demo account.  You'll be required to fill out surveys
> > periodically, but if running Linux is your goal, this is a small price to
> > pay.
> 
> 
> The goal for most of us is freedom, not using Linux.  
> 
> When I was in grade school I was told that with our justice system
> innocent until proven guilty was the rule.  We were told that it was
> better to let 100 criminals back onto the streets than to put away one
> innocent person.
This is propoganda.  If you have ever had any reason to feel intimidated
by a person with a badge and gun and little training (spent a lot of
time is Alabama as a kid) you would already realize this.
> 
> With DRM and the strong arm tactics pushed by RIAA and Microsoft we see
> that's not true anymore.  Already 12 year old kids who didn't even know
> they were doing anything wrong are subpoenaed and brought to court and  
> people who have legitimate rights to use software are prevented (as was
> mentioned yesterday on this list).
I do not like the crap the RIAA and BSA are pulling.  The problem is
they have a right to do what they are doing because, like it or not,
their property is being taken without payment or permission.  A twelve
year old not knowing is not an excuse because the parents or guardians
should have known and stopped the behavior.

People with legitimate rights to do things have always been stopped by
controlling powers.  Age old story.
> 
> The irony here is that the dozens of corporate executives from dozens of
> companies who fraudulently hid from the public their wrong doing and are
> guilty of billions of dollars in damages have walked away almost
> entirely free of any punishment.  
No irony here.  Every body with a brain knows who has paid which
politition to look out for them.  Since americans have decided to rely
on who they see on late night television to give them their candidates,
and then those that have enough money (bribes) this will not change.

> 
> Yet the 12 year old kid was fined and forced to pay.
Easy target, after all the parent was probably computer illiterate, not
very bright or disinterested.  Actually probably all three.
> 
> 
> I look at the cost of proprietary software and instead of seeing the
> pricing go down over time...I have noticed it trends up.  Why is that? 
> Is it because as an installed user base gets larger it is harder to
> support and therefor costs increase?
It is because the stock holders demand the company show a larger profit
every year.  If it can not be done by technical excellence it must be
done any other way possible.  This is how Microsoft and SCO happen.  The
system is mostly broke.
> 
> No, it's because as the installed user base grows and people become more
> used to a product they are less likely to leave and willing to pay more.
> 
> Now how can I trust a company (ANY COMPANY) that has the legal right to
> do whatever they want with pricing and licensing and has already proven
> itself hostile to it's installed user base (As mentioned yesterday on
> this list) and increases prices as they lock people into their product?
> 
> Trustworthy computing?  DRM?
> 
> Good luck.  
> 
> It's about freedom. 
> 
> -Chris
Using Linux will not give you freedom.  It gives me some satisfaction
but freedom has nothing to do with it.  Americans should be very
concerned about their freedoms.  Corporate America is buying them as
fast as possible.  The only way to change this is to get involved and
get candidates that are not paid for by the special interests.

Think about it.  Iraq had everything to do with coprerate America.  It
keep most Americans busy form months and not thinking about the economy
being in the shitter.  Despite what Wall Street says, the economy will
not improve for the average American until jobs are created and company
quit reducing benefits to match the slave labor in China.  Wall Street
will continue to show improvement, jobs will continue to go to Asia and
the 4 million jobs lost since the start of the year will never return.

Microsoft, Intel, IBM and all large companies are sending lots of work
over sees to make sure the economy does not improve here.  Levies has
moved its last fabric out of the states.  When was the last time you saw
a shirt with a made in America label.  These companies have banded
together to pay enough for governemnt to keep us busy not noticing how
well they are doing and how badly they are screwing the american public.

Get real, there is precious little freedom left in america and Ashcroft
is trying very hard to take the last bit away.

Johnnie

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