Re: Data Center Facility Costs

Greetings,

I'm in, too. Who's fronting the money?

-D

On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Jeff Koch wrote:

>
> Are we talking about Spokane or further south?  How's the internet  
> connectivity around there? I'll move - what should I tell the wife  
> and kids :)
>
>
> At 01:11 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>> Well if anyone wants to get together to build an Eastern Washington
>> datacenter, we would love to help. :)   Depending on where on the  
>> east
>> side of the state, the power costs range from a low of about $0.015  
>> KWh
>> to about $0.070 KWh and it is all hydro.
>>
>> John van Oppen
>> Spectrum Networks LLC
>> 206.973.8302 (Direct)
>> 206.973.8300 (main office)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] 
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of jp
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:11 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Data Center Facility Costs
>>
>>
>> As much as I'd love to invite you all to be customers, don't come to
>> Maine.
>>
>> We pay about $0.16 per KWH, making the power bill the major  
>> component in
>>
>> a customer's colocation bill. We save a worthwhile amount of money in
>> the winter by mixing some outdoor air, but it's not substantial  
>> enough
>> to affect colo customer's bills.
>>
>> If you were on a Maine island with power, it might be $0.28-0.55 per
>> KWH.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:12:38AM -0500, Jeff Koch wrote:
>> >
>> > I changed the title a little to reflect the changed conversation  
>> about
>> the
>> > cost of running a data center.
>> >
>> > Anyway, are there parts of the country where the cost of running a
>> data
>> > center are substantially cheaper? Maybe where the cost of power  
>> is 3
>> cents
>> > per KW or maybe where the climate is cooler and you can just open  
>> the
>> doors
>> > (figuratively speaking) to cool the servers. Since electricity  
>> seems
>> to be
>> > the greatest operating cost where's the best place to locate a DC?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 06:43 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>> > >joe mcguckin wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>I don't think it costs $276 to reject the heat. Most modern HVAC
>> systems
>> > >>have something like a 4:1 effeciency factor, so it probably  
>> really
>> > >>costs something like $70 for cooling...
>> > >
>> > >Check the archives of NANOG42 (you're on the attendee list too...)
>> and
>> > >you'll see someone (multiple people?) quote the figures I used.  I
>> > >recently attended a cooling seminar (thanks Digital Realty Trust!)
>> and
>> > >they quoted a facility that had metered their "stuff" and were
>> stunned by
>> > >the results.
>> > >
>> > >Note that I lumped things together as "infrastructure", not just
>> direct
>> > >cooling.
>> > >
>> > >pt
>> > >
>> > >--
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>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Jeff Koch, Intersessions
>> >
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>
> Jeff Koch, Intersessions
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