RE: Data Center Facility Costs

Me too..  how many Sysadmins do we need?  lol 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Koch
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Data Center Facility Costs
> 
> 
> Are we talking about Spokane or further south?  How's the 
> internet connectivity around there? I'll move - what should I 
> tell the wife and kids :)
> 
> 
> At 01:11 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> >Well if anyone wants to get together to build an Eastern Washington
> >datacenter, we would love to help. :)   Depending on where 
> on the east
> >side of the state, the power costs range from a low of about 
> $0.015 KWh
> >to about $0.070 KWh and it is all hydro.
> >
> >John van Oppen
> >Spectrum Networks LLC
> >206.973.8302 (Direct)
> >206.973.8300 (main office)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >On Behalf Of jp
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:11 AM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: Data Center Facility Costs
> >
> >
> >As much as I'd love to invite you all to be customers, don't come to
> >Maine.
> >
> >We pay about $0.16 per KWH, making the power bill the major 
> component in
> >
> >a customer's colocation bill. We save a worthwhile amount of money in
> >the winter by mixing some outdoor air, but it's not 
> substantial enough
> >to affect colo customer's bills.
> >
> >If you were on a Maine island with power, it might be $0.28-0.55 per
> >KWH.
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:12:38AM -0500, Jeff Koch wrote:
> > >
> > > I changed the title a little to reflect the changed 
> conversation about
> >the
> > > cost of running a data center.
> > >
> > > Anyway, are there parts of the country where the cost of running a
> >data
> > > center are substantially cheaper? Maybe where the cost of 
> power is 3
> >cents
> > > per KW or maybe where the climate is cooler and you can 
> just open the
> >doors
> > > (figuratively speaking) to cool the servers. Since 
> electricity seems
> >to be
> > > the greatest operating cost where's the best place to locate a DC?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:43 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> > > >joe mcguckin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I don't think it costs $276 to reject the heat. Most modern HVAC
> >systems
> > > >>have something like a 4:1 effeciency factor, so it 
> probably really
> > > >>costs something like $70 for cooling...
> > > >
> > > >Check the archives of NANOG42 (you're on the attendee 
> list too...)
> >and
> > > >you'll see someone (multiple people?) quote the figures 
> I used.  I
> > > >recently attended a cooling seminar (thanks Digital 
> Realty Trust!)
> >and
> > > >they quoted a facility that had metered their "stuff" and were
> >stunned by
> > > >the results.
> > > >
> > > >Note that I lumped things together as "infrastructure", not just
> >direct
> > > >cooling.
> > > >
> > > >pt
> > > >
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> > >
> > > Jeff Koch, Intersessions
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