RE: Data Center Facility Costs

Put me at the top of the list..  I work cheaper than those other guys..
;)

Kevin 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kovar
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Data Center Facility Costs
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I'm in, too. Who's fronting the money?
> 
> -D
> 
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Jeff Koch wrote:
> 
> >
> > Are we talking about Spokane or further south?  How's the internet 
> > connectivity around there? I'll move - what should I tell 
> the wife and 
> > kids :)
> >
> >
> > At 01:11 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> >> Well if anyone wants to get together to build an Eastern Washington
> >> datacenter, we would love to help. :)   Depending on where on the  
> >> east
> >> side of the state, the power costs range from a low of 
> about $0.015  
> >> KWh
> >> to about $0.070 KWh and it is all hydro.
> >>
> >> John van Oppen
> >> Spectrum Networks LLC
> >> 206.973.8302 (Direct)
> >> 206.973.8300 (main office)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> >> ]
> >> On Behalf Of jp
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:11 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Data Center Facility Costs
> >>
> >>
> >> As much as I'd love to invite you all to be customers, 
> don't come to
> >> Maine.
> >>
> >> We pay about $0.16 per KWH, making the power bill the major  
> >> component in
> >>
> >> a customer's colocation bill. We save a worthwhile amount 
> of money in
> >> the winter by mixing some outdoor air, but it's not substantial  
> >> enough
> >> to affect colo customer's bills.
> >>
> >> If you were on a Maine island with power, it might be 
> $0.28-0.55 per
> >> KWH.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:12:38AM -0500, Jeff Koch wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I changed the title a little to reflect the changed 
> conversation  
> >> about
> >> the
> >> > cost of running a data center.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, are there parts of the country where the cost of 
> running a
> >> data
> >> > center are substantially cheaper? Maybe where the cost of power  
> >> is 3
> >> cents
> >> > per KW or maybe where the climate is cooler and you can 
> just open  
> >> the
> >> doors
> >> > (figuratively speaking) to cool the servers. Since electricity  
> >> seems
> >> to be
> >> > the greatest operating cost where's the best place to 
> locate a DC?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 06:43 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> >> > >joe mcguckin wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>I don't think it costs $276 to reject the heat. Most 
> modern HVAC
> >> systems
> >> > >>have something like a 4:1 effeciency factor, so it probably  
> >> really
> >> > >>costs something like $70 for cooling...
> >> > >
> >> > >Check the archives of NANOG42 (you're on the attendee 
> list too...)
> >> and
> >> > >you'll see someone (multiple people?) quote the figures 
> I used.  I
> >> > >recently attended a cooling seminar (thanks Digital 
> Realty Trust!)
> >> and
> >> > >they quoted a facility that had metered their "stuff" and were
> >> stunned by
> >> > >the results.
> >> > >
> >> > >Note that I lumped things together as "infrastructure", not just
> >> direct
> >> > >cooling.
> >> > >
> >> > >pt
> >> > >
> >> > >--
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> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jeff Koch, Intersessions
> >> >
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