RE: Data Center Facility Costs

"Kevin Kargel" <kkargel-BvA0c2rBOuxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
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The town is Park River, ND. You can drill down in this site to the
mayors contact info: http://www.parkrivernd.govoffice2.com/ 

 There is an industrial development committee, as well as an economic
development committee.  In fact there are plans under way to build a new
industrial park at the edge of town.  I have heard that part of that
park construction will be fiber infrastructure to the Telco NOC.  



Contact me offlist for contact details (kkargel-BvA0c2rBOuxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]).  If you
decide to make a trip bring your golf clubs, people come from all over
to play our course, or plan the trip to coincide with walleye fishing or
hunting seasons if that is your preference.  

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Koch
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Data Center Facility Costs
> 
> 
> Hi Kevin - what town are you in? Is there an industrial 
> development agency? 
> How about the mayor's name and phone. Maybe we'll make a trip 
> out to visit.... Sounds great to me!
> 
> 
> At 11:27 AM 3/7/2008, you wrote:
> >That's one reason I am rather surprised that some server farm hasn't
> >moved in here.  There is good power available, cheap real estate,
> >existing empty structures, a friendly economic development committee,
> >easy bandwidth close to the backbone, a modern school and brand new
> >hospital.  We may not have stop lights (a traffic jam is 
> three cars at
> >the same intersection) but we do have a grocery store, hardware store
> >and movie theatre. We even have a very nice coffee shop and 
> a hotel.  I
> >work at the telco/ISP and we are a co-op, which lets us be less
> >structured than the big boys and do more custom installations for our
> >customers.
> >
> >I love living in a rural environment with a tech job, the 
> best of both
> >worlds in my opinion.  I get to play with routers and 
> Internet all day,
> >and at 4:30 jump in the car and I'm 5 minutes away from great hunting
> >and fishing grounds.
> >
> >Perhaps the only lacking resource would be a workforce, but 
> you should
> >be able to import that, and the on site workforce for a server farm
> >really doesn't need to be that extensive.  just a few guys to do the
> >touchy-feeley stuff..
> >
> >I am not recruiting here..  more like bragging..  :) ... but 
> having said
> >that I would be willing to act as a point of contact to put 
> you in touch
> >with city government.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Rubenstein
> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:19 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: Data Center Facility Costs
> > >
> > > ... and have no fiber.
> > >
> > > That is the hard part, finding the intersection of lots of
> > > fiber, cheap power, power availability***, labor resource,
> > > real estate, and customers.
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Never, ever make an assumption that because you need
> > > power that the utility can (or will) provide it. In fact,
> > > things are so constrained in NJ that we have to pay them to
> > > do power studies to see if loads even as small as 3 or 4
> > > megawatts won't break them. Then, they want us to pay
> > > reservation fees.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You guys got me curious, so I called and checked..  here in Park
> > > > River, ND , the small installation charge for power is .074/kwh
> > > > (either 1 phase or 3 phase), and for large installations (I am
> > > > guessing that means big enough to get your own 
> transformer, or over
> > > > 200 Amps, or something) the cost is .0645/kwh .
> > > >
> > > > Of course the main advantage here is that real estate is
> > > cheap enough
> > > > that you can buy a building with your mastercard..  lol..
> > >
> > > --
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> Best Regards,
> 
> Jeff Koch, Intersessions 
> 
> -- 
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