RE: Data Center Facility Costs

Alex Rubenstein once said:
> 
> > I can say with nearly absolute certainty that the bandwidth, and
> access
> > to it, are non-issues (as long as you aren't doing this at the old
> > family farmstead that is 20 miles away from any Telephone central
> > offices :-).
> 
> Why would a "telco centrol office" be involved?
> 
> If you build a datacenter with the intent of using the local LEC as
the
> means of capacity, you have already lost.
>

So you are saying a LEC cannot provide Internet access? I work for a LEC
and we can provide excessive amounts of outbound bandwidth to customers
because we already buy excessive amounts of bandwidth for subscribers
and have the outbound to burn.

Please do not presume to know about someone else's house until you have
been there... It's rude. :)

> 
> 
> > > The other lacking resource may be customers.
> > >
> >
> > The location of the customers has nothing to do with the location of
> the
> > data other than being a selling point.
> 
> Very nice statement that has little to do with fact -- at least in my
> world.

Can I come to your world? Is it nice there?

> 
> We operate about 60,000 feet of space in Northern NJ. As we have
> approached
> customers -- both large 1800 sq-ft customers and small half cabinet
> customers - the general consensus is that they want to be near their
> equipment and data. I can't say that I see their reasoning for it, but
> it is
> the data we have gotten back.

I have also experienced these customers, but if you are hosting your
equipment for others to use, like say a virtual infrastructure system,
then this is easily feasible and scales very well.

> 
> For sure, on the larger scale customers, they often have people in
here
> working on equipment, as frequently as every day.

Then this isn't for them.

> 
> Also, another issue to contend with -- if you are in Nowhere, ND or
> Somewhere, WA, will you be able to get 2, or even 4 hour response from
> Dell,
> HP, Cisco, IBM, EMC, or whoever?

Again, this goes with the customer type and purpose. With virtual
infrastructure, this is a mute point as long as we are not loosing
multiple distinct systems simultaneously. And we may not get that kind
of response time, but that is what a "cold spare" is for. :)


> 
> If there was a silver bullet, everyone would know about it.
> 

Nobody said it was, but it is just an option that seems to be quickly
overlooked by over citified people. :)

In a previous position, also in the great white north here, I oversaw a
datacenter with around 120 servers/devices. We rarely had power or
equipment issues. It was simply smaller than the data centers I have
seen in the more metropolitan areas of the country. I'm sure it was
excessively cheaper on any directly relevant scale.

- Brian
-- 
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