Re: Monitor path changes

Larry Sheldon <[email protected]> Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:55:56 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.org.operators.internet-access
Organization Are you kidding me?
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2/26/2011 2:51 PM, Steve VanDevender wrote:
> Frank Bulk writes:
>   >  Except when you can't contact the endpoint and you wonder what hop(s) are
>   >  broken or breaking it.  Was it running along another path before that
>   >  worked...
>   >
>   >  Frank
>
> I can see wanting to monitor your own network for routing failures and
> changes in dynamic routing that might indicate problems, but if you're
> monitoring some endpoint outside your network by doing continual
> traceroutes, apart from satisfying your own curiousity I'm not sure how
> much you could use the information on path changes in networks that
> someone else is managing.  You could find that the path changes all the
> time even while connectivity remains available, or that when
> connectivity is interrupted knowing what the different paths might have
> been isn't of any use.  So maybe you could go pester some other provider
> about the network failure but that might not do anything to speed up the
> resolution.  And you couldn't even depend on traceroute output that much
> since an apparent missing hop in a traceroute doesn't necessarily mean
> that there is a failure of connectivity; maybe some router just didn't
> feel like sending an ICMP TTL exceeded back to you.

And (memories of  my small-pipe days--I remember when 56 Kb was 
HUGE--does everybody doing trace routes scale well?  Maybe IPv7 will 
have an ICMP region in the header.

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