Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

And Greg, don't forget that IS is now effectively, if not yet fully integrated, the SA arm of Nippon
Telecom.  I agree with your post 100%.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gregory Massel
>Sent: 14 February 2013 12:56 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [IOZ] Voice spectrum swapped for LTE
>
>On 2013/02/13 06:45 PM, Graham Leggett wrote:
>
>>> Not beyond repair, no, the solution is this:
>>>
>>> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/telecoms/69146-level-3-in-sa-better-faster-internet-promised.html
>>>
>>> When international ISP businesses believe the time is right to invest in the ZA market and have
a
>reasonable chance of getting a return on their investment they will march in with their global
staff base and
>take over the market.
>>>
>
>I've been hesitant to comment on what is already degrading into a
>groan-fest, however, the above is such a load of codswallop that I feel
>compelled to respond.
>
>International ISP businesses have been investing in the ZA market for
>well over fifteen years already and, as history will show, the only ones
>that have truly succeeded in the ZA market were those that acquired
>established players.
>
>Anyone recall when Pipex entered SA? I see them on Ant's original ISP
>Map dated 11 December 1995. And before you say they were not seriously
>invested, consider that they acquired Internet Africa and renamed it
>Pipex Internet Africa (which subsequently become UUnet Internet Africa
>when UUnet bought Pipex).
>
>How about when Global One entered the SA market?  I see them on a 31
>July 1996 version of an ISP map that I published.
>
>IBM SA anyone? Yes, it's on the 12 Feb 1998 ISP map. And in 2000 that
>network became part of the AT&T Global Network.
>
>And that's all pre-2000. Investment since then has only increased. If
>you want more recent examples, take a look at, for example, Neotel,
>which has substantial investment by Tata. That's without even looking at
>examples like MTN that, while starting in SA, are now international.
>
>Now, as for all that bull about how a foreign ISP will finally invest
>and is going to "fix" our market:
>1. The above clearly shows that foreign ISPs have been investing in SA
>since at least 1995 (perhaps earlier);
>2. Despite all of the above, the bulk of the market share remains with
>players like Internet Solutions, Telkom, MTN, M-Web and others, which
>would indicate that - despite spurious claims to the contrary - South
>African ISPs have actually been more successful at servicing the SA
>market then foreign ISPs that have entered this market.
>
>I wish Level 3 the best for their entry to SA. I'm a firm believer that
>foreign investment is in the best interests of the country and that
>foreign ISPs competing in SA will bring a new dimension to the
>competitive landscape that will help improve the market as a whole. But
>I'll eat my socks if they "march in with the global staff base and take
>over the market."
>
>I've had the pleasure of working with numerous SA ISPs for ~17 years
>and, IMHO, they're a pretty dynamic bunch.
>
>
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